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THE BRITISH THREAD II

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 02:55 am
At last, some good news. Our recruiters do a bloody good job.

Quote:
Southampton have appointed former Nice boss Claude Puel as their new manager.

The 54-year-old Frenchman, who left the Ligue 1 club in May after four years in charge, has signed a three-year contract with Saints.

He replaces Ronald Koeman, who took over at Everton on 16 June.

Saints executive director of football Les Reed described the search for a new manager as "diligent and meticulous" and that the "process eliminated a number of excellent candidates".

Southampton considered ex-Roma boss Rudi Garcia, while a move for former Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini was not pursued after initial talks.

"Claude clearly came out on top of a very impressive shortlist," added Reed.

He added that the Puel would "meet our needs as a club" while "taking account of our culture, vision and values".

Eric Black, Aston Villa's caretaker manager last season following Remi Garde's sacking, joins Puel as assistant manager with former Boulogne coach Pascal Plancque as assistant first-team coach.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36642502
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 01:06 pm
So, who's Michael Gove, who I read is standing for the Prime Ministry, and how do you all select your Prime Minister, exactly?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 01:11 pm
bump
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 01:12 pm
Bump
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 01:24 pm
@InfraBlue,
Michael Gove is a former Secretary of State for Education, Government Chief Whip and Secretary of State for Justice (until now).

Usually, in the UK the PM is the leader of the largest party in the House of Commons.

georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 01:50 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
I don't know much about either Grove or Johnson. However, Grove's sudden reversal (betrayal?) and Johnson's quick acceptance of it suggest that something else may be involved. Strange events.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 01:52 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Michael Gove is a former Secretary of State for Education, Government Chief Whip and Secretary of State for Justice (until now).


Thanks for the info. on Gove.

WalterHinteler wrote:
Usually, in the UK the PM is the leader of the largest party in the House of Commons.


Understood. How is this leader selected?
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 02:28 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
Understood. How is this leader selected?
Theresa May, Michael Gove, Stephen Crabb, Andrea Leadsom and Liam Fox are those, who said they want - the nominations closed yesterday (Thursday, 30 June).

A ballot will be held within the Parliamentary Party next Tuesday (if I remember correctly) - selecting two candidates to go forward to the general membership of the Party. I don't know when that ballot will be.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 02:46 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
So, the general membership of the Party are the registered, card carrying Party members?
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 02:47 pm
On another topic,

Wales is beating Belgium!
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McTag
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 03:33 pm

Hats off to Wales, who achieved a stunning result tonight. Unbelievable, and no fluke. This is the best result since David (good Welsh name, that) met Goliath.
InfraBlue
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 03:52 pm

There can be no “a la carte” access to the single market, the European Council president Donald Tusk has said, as Europe’s leaders agreed that Britain must accept freedom of movement if it wants access.

Quote:
David Cameron told the full European Council meeting on Tuesday night that concerns about immigration were the key factor behind the country’s vote for Brexit and pushed for reforms to freedom of movement rules, which are currently a condition of single market access.

But following a meeting of 27 leaders of EU member states on Wednesday morning, excluding Mr Cameron, Mr Tusk made clear that the Council shared German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s view that Britain faces a choice between single market access and the power to control EU migration – and could not have both.


I don't understand the conditions that the European Council is placing on Britain, that "there will be no single market a la carte," that they have to accept freedom of movement if it wants access to "the single market." It doesn't place these conditions on the US, for example, why place them on Britain?
Kolyo
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 03:52 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:

the fleet has set sail for Westeros.


Who needs em. We've got dragon attacks right here in Europe!
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 05:42 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
It doesn't place these conditions on the US, for example, why place them on Britain?


It does. If you're a 45 year old plumber wanting to up sticks and move to Berlin you'll have to go through all sorts of procedures and even then your place is not secured.

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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2016 10:31 pm
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:
I don't understand the conditions that the European Council is placing on Britain, that "there will be no single market a la carte," that they have to accept freedom of movement if it wants access to "the single market." It doesn't place these conditions on the US, for example, why place them on Britain?
The UK can aim for a deal that allows full preferential access to the single market without having to accept freedom of movement, but no country has managed such a deal so far. (Canada has been negotiating a free trade agreement with the EU that does not require it to accept freedom of movement.)

The free movement is one of the (original) pillars of the EU.
McTag
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2016 01:16 am
@McTag,
Gareth Edwards, JPR Williams, Barry John, Chris Coleman, Arron Ramsey, Gareth Bale.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2016 02:48 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Gove, by far the foulest of all the leadership contenders, thinks he can do it, but I think he'll just entrench a hardball attitude in his European counterparts.

We'll probably end up as before but with no say in European laws. I can't see access to the open market without free movement happening, even if it does make it a lot harder for Germany to sell its cars over here.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2016 03:32 am
@izzythepush,
I think that it has been and stiil is a "buddy play" between Cameron and Johnson ....... and Gove now entered that competition as the third buddy (again).

It has been, in my opinion, just and only about about the leadership in the Conservative Party, with the EU and Brexit as the major trump [pun intended] card.

I agree that at the end, you'll probably end up as before but with no say in European laws and EU-organisations. (Selling German cars would be a minor effect: they can handle this with Norway and Switzerland.)
izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2016 03:40 am
@Walter Hinteler,
British German car sales has been a subject thrown about by the Brexiters. When Labour MP, (and leave campaigner,) John Mann appeared on The Last Leg last week the first thing he said was that Germany will still sell its cars to us.

There's an irrational belief that Europe's trade with Britain is so important that it would do anything not to jeopardise it. It's as true as the £134 million that will be spent on the NHS as a result of Brexit.

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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 2 Jul, 2016 03:53 am
It's still very confusing times.

Quote:
The vast majority of those interviewed said they would not change their vote if the UK held a second referendum on EU membership.

But 5% of Leave voters said they would now change their vote compared to just 2% of Remain voters.

Results also show that more than half of voters do not believe their current government and MPs reflect the views of the British public towards the EU - including 67% of Leave voters.
And 59% of respondents said they were not confident in Britain's political leaders to get the best possible terms for Britain - rising to 76% of Remain voters.

Quizzed on two of the most contentious issues of the campaign - free movement and membership of the single market - marginally more voters favoured the UK continuing without restrictions on migration in return for continuing to trade in the single market.

A total of 42% of respondents said Britain should continue to allow EU citizens to live and work in Britain in return for access to the single market - including 18% of Leave voters.

But 38% of those polled said losing access to the single market would be a price worth paying for new curbs on immigration.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-uk-leaves-the-eu-36689608
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