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Can you help re-write The Oxford English Dictionary?

 
 
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 11:14 am
Hi everyone!

I hope this is of interest to all A2K'ers and not just the Brit contingency.

The Oxford English dictionary and a respected programme (Balderdash & Piffle) on the BBC are looking for written evidence of the earliest known usage of certain phrases in the English language.

I submitted an written example of 'The Full Monty' to the last appeal, but they managed to find a much earlier text.

Some of the examples may be peculiar to Great Britain, but I'm sure you will all be familiar with most of them.

So let's get cracking - it would be great to see A2K acknowledge by the OED.

Note to Mods: I don't know how to make the link smaller, so sorry for the ugly long one.

http://www.oed.com/bbcwordhunt/


Clarey... this is right up your Street!

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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 11:36 am
Hey, smorgs. Bet the OED doesn't have "chitterlings" in it. Razz
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 12:03 pm
What the hell are they?

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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 12:10 pm
hog guts, smorgs. After the Civil War in America, many were totally destitute, and in order to survive, had to eat what they could find. The hog, (pig) was the food of choice because practically every part of it could be used for something. I would compare it to the American Indian and the buffalo. Not one part of the buffalo was wasted by the Amerind. Women in the South leaned to do things they had never had to do before. (Southern pronunciation: chitlins)
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 12:20 pm
I know chitterlings. Having worked in a Butchery department many moons ago, we actually used to sell them. They don't sell them now, and I haven't seen them in a butcher's for at least fifteen years or so.

The other "Innards" included such exotic things as "Melts" and "Lights".

Don't ask.
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 12:30 pm
Evenin' Ellpus...

Just on my way to Sadagar for a ruby...

(and poppadums, naan and tears on my pillau rice)

Couldn't resist a last look in...

I'll be seeing you later (threat and promise)

Evenin' letty,

I thought they were chicken wings...

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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 12:32 pm
Heh, heh. OK, L.E. I won't ask. Of course they don't do chitlins now. No need. Do you recall pickled pig's feet? Another delicacy was pig's brains and scrambled eggs.

I know that in China, this is the year of the pig, and you Brits know Charles Lamb, right?
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 12:35 pm
Letty wrote:
Heh, heh. OK, L.E. I won't ask. Of course they don't do chitlins now. No need. Do you recall pickled pig's feet? Another delicacy was pig's brains and scrambled eggs.

I know that in China, this is the year of the pig, and you Brits know Charles Lamb, right?
Bought some pork wings yesterday. Really good.
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 12:36 pm
Later, smorgs. Actually, there are things called buffalo wings.
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 12:42 pm
Letty wrote:
Heh, heh. OK, L.E. I won't ask. Of course they don't do chitlins now. No need. Do you recall pickled pig's feet? Another delicacy was pig's brains.........


Yep to pickled "trotters".

Pigs brains = "Brawn" over here.

Luvverly grub.


Hi Sarah, I'm here for a shortish while, then I'm back off to take some stuff for me Mum.
Maybe catch you later......enjoy the Ruby!


(Letty.....Ruby Murray = Curry)

You'll maybe have to google Ruby Murray, but I suspect you've already heard of her, knowing your musical knowledge.
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 12:51 pm
Hmmm. L.E. and Steve. Here are buffalo wings, and I suppose pork wings are the same things and that would be red hot chicken wings. You know, the part that looks like a miniature drum stick?

http://gbn.glenbrook.k12.il.us/academics/clsKILLS/BUSED/ITB/Buffalo-Wings.jpg

Sorry, L.E. Don't know Ruby Murray, but I recognize the cockney rhyming.

Sorry to derail smorgs thread, but I was thinking of my Virginia family today.
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 12:54 pm
Letty wrote:
Hmmm. L.E. and Steve. Here are buffalo wings, and I suppose pork wings are the same things and that would be red hot chicken wings. You know, the part that looks like a miniature drum stick?

http://gbn.glenbrook.k12.il.us/academics/clsKILLS/BUSED/ITB/Buffalo-Wings.jpg

Sorry, L.E. Don't know Ruby Murray, but I recognize the cockney rhyming.

Sorry to derail smorgs thread, but I was thinking of my Virginia family today.
pork wings? Is my sense of humour beyond belief?
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 12:56 pm
Flying pigs Steve. I know that England will regain the ashes next time, as a flock of them circle round Edgbaston..
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 01:29 pm
Ah, I missed Steve's wit. Sorry Brit, but if we Americans can call chicken wings buffalo, then I don't see why pork wings won't fly.:

http://www.freefever.com/animatedgifs/animated/pig5.gif
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 04:59 pm
Have you heared of 'tripe', letty?

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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 05:22 pm
Tripe smells bloomin' awful when it's being cooked.

Tastes OK, though.
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 05:33 pm
Hey, smorgs and L.E. Isn't tripe something like spam? Razz

Seriously, gal. I recall when bling bling became a part of the OED, and perhaps chic flic. Hmmm, What about a hoecake?

Anyway, here's what one man has to say about tripe and it ain't pretty.

http://www.crushpadwine.com/blog/uploaded_images/smalldavid-750060.jpg
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Reply Fri 5 Jan, 2007 06:11 pm
Re: Can you help re-write The Oxford English Dictionary?
smorgs wrote:
Hi everyone!

I hope this is of interest to all A2K'ers and not just the Brit contingency.

The Oxford English dictionary and a respected programme (Balderdash & Piffle) on the BBC are looking for written evidence of the earliest known usage of certain phrases in the English language.

I submitted an written example of 'The Full Monty' to the last appeal, but they managed to find a much earlier text.

Some of the examples may be peculiar to Great Britain, but I'm sure you will all be familiar with most of them.

So let's get cracking - it would be great to see A2K acknowledge by the OED.

Note to Mods: I don't know how to make the link smaller, so sorry for the ugly long one.

http://www.oed.com/bbcwordhunt/


Clarey... this is right up your Street!

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My memory is so bad, I'd be about as much use as a chocolate fireguard.

boom boom
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Reply Wed 10 Jan, 2007 04:57 pm
I once saw a huge plastic container -- the sort that premixed plaster comes in -- in a refrigerated case in a supermarket labeled chitterlings.

While Buffalo wings have been popular for almost two generations, an earlier treat was the city chicken, a mock drumstick made of cubes of pork and veal, covered with breading, that was fried.
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Reply Wed 10 Jan, 2007 05:10 pm
letty :
'chitterling' is listed in my 1971 OED .
it's a pretty old word going back to 1280 and spelled in a variety of ways .
sorry , but i don't think you were born prior to 1280 ? :wink:
try a differnt one .
hbg
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