religious people don't care about truth

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neologist wrote:

Someone said

Something to the effect of

Science will lead to this or that
Or evolution will bring about thus and such

You're killin me Smile

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rosborne979 wrote:

real life wrote:
You certainly are determined to stretch the meaning of 'prediction' , aren't you?

You certainly are determined to fixate on it, aren't you.

To quote a great American, "Words mean things."

rosborne979 wrote:

real life wrote:
In short, the upshot of evolutionary theory is to 'predict' the opposite of what you said it predicts.

So now you think evolution predicts the opposite of inheretance and descent with modification?

Variation (modification) is predicted by evolution.

However, inheritance (the passing on of traits to one's offspring) has been known for thousands of years.

Therefore, evolution did not 'predict' and 'later confirm' the principle of inheritance.

But you said it did.

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I'm sure this post is off whatever the present topic within the topic is.

Just checking in, and will go right back out again, to say that when I was a believer, I did care about the truth. I'm a long long non-believer now, and still do.

I don't think slamming people for their beliefs or non beliefs is all that useful. Most people are trying for the truth in their way. Among the theorists, theologians may shun non-believers (though in my old reading, most of those theologians were close to nonbelief), and pastors will excoriate nonbelief, usually... and intellectuals of non belief will mock believers of whatever sort. Kind of a fear of the other self in action, at least sometimes.

I am not interested in arguing about what truth is. I'm interested in people not ruling even one more human being with his or her own view.

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real life wrote:

Variation (modification) is predicted by evolution.

However, inheritance (the passing on of traits to one's offspring) has been known for thousands of years.

So what. It can still be pridicted by a theory.

real life wrote:

Therefore, evolution did not 'predict' and 'later confirm' the principle of inheritance.

Descent with modification.

real life wrote:

But you said it did.

Maybe it'll help if you stamp your feet and pout when you say it.

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Ros I dont understand why you continually waste your time on this thread.

Come over to the Brit thread to meet real lunatics.

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Steve 41oo wrote:

Ros I dont understand why you continually waste your time on this thread.

I don't know either.

Steve 41oo wrote:

Come over to the Brit thread to meet real lunatics.

Oh good, I'll feel right at home Smile

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by the power vested in me, I grant you honorary British Citizenship for the purpose of indulging in various lunacies known as the British Thread

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=82495&start=270

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Steve 41oo wrote:

by the power vested in me, I grant you honorary British Citizenship for the purpose of indulging in various lunacies known as the British Thread.

Ok, I'm in. Do I have to say things like "bloody hell" and stuff like that?

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rosborne979 wrote:

Steve 41oo wrote:
by the power vested in me, I grant you honorary British Citizenship for the purpose of indulging in various lunacies known as the British Thread.

Ok, I'm in. Do I have to say things like "bloody hell" and stuff like that?

not necessarily, but it helps if you want to be taken seriously. Lord Ellpus is guardian of the official guide to English English as wot it is spake. He can help with the more convoluted points of ettiquette.

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rosborne979 wrote:

real life wrote:
Therefore, evolution did not 'predict' and 'later confirm' the principle of inheritance.

Descent with modification.

real life wrote:
But you said it did.

Maybe it'll help if you stamp your feet and pout when you say it.

Sorry, I'm too busy laughing at your deperate attempts to cover your tracks.

You want to assert descent WITH modification now.

But the whole point of your post was organisms PASSING ON their traits; not modification.

rosborne979 wrote:

real life wrote:
Variation (modification) is predicted by evolution.

However, inheritance (the passing on of traits to one's offspring) has been known for thousands of years.

So what. It can still be pridicted by a theory.

(Are you stamping your feet?)

Your insistence that the well known fact of inheritance of traits was 'predicted' and 'later confirmed' by evolution is just a silly misconception of what evolution teaches.

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Why are you focusing so much on a small, irrelevant mistake that rosborne made?

Whatever he may have said before, he has clearly taken it back and is talking about "descent with modification."

Both of you agree that Darwin was not the first to put forward the idea of organisms passing on traits to their offspring.

Do you realise that?

YOU BOTH AGREE!!!

Now move on and discuss what you disagree about.

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real life wrote:

Your insistence that the well known fact of inheritance of traits was 'predicted' and 'later confirmed' by evolution is just a silly misconception of what evolution teaches.

Ok, let's hear what you think evolution teaches.

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