Conversion from Islam = Death penalty?

So are you a Christian Rex? Or do you just define Christianity to be what RedRex believes in?

what for?

'truth'
'spirituality'

Meaningless.

You are right about one thing, Rex. The trinity is a pagan doctrine.

This energy is "created" within us. This energy goes on to become us in the afterlife..

Islam was still rather new and at the time they were constantly in jihad ....That was the main reason behind forbidding and killing converts; it was an issue of treason and safety. Hopefully I did not distort the orignal reason.

"Mohammed's God endorsed a policy of conquest, instructing his believers to fight against unbelievers wherever they might be found. In short Mohammed had to conquer, his followers liked to conquer, and his diety told him to conquer"

Raul-7 wrote:

Islam was still rather new and at the time they were constantly in jihad ....That was the main reason behind forbidding and killing converts; it was an issue of treason and safety. Hopefully I did not distort the orignal reason.

I see. So resisting oppressors and the people of the book was responsible for Islam spreading from Arabia tribe to Spain and India in little more than 100 years? The establishment of the caliphate and the islamic empire happened through spreading the Good News eh? You must know this is rubbish. Islam spread through a desire for conquest and the material benefits it afforded.

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"Mohammed's God endorsed a policy of conquest, instructing his believers to fight against unbelievers wherever they might be found. In short Mohammed had to conquer, his followers liked to conquer, and his diety told him to conquer"

Maybe Islam spread on it's own and the conquering part was outside forces trying to topple the regime and Islam simply defending itself? Did you ever think of that?

Christianity and Judaism has spread in much the same ways through wars... Christians once ruled Jerusalem remember?

What were one generation removed pagan Europeans doing in the holy lands? $

RexRed wrote:

Maybe Islam spread on it's own and the conquering part was outside forces trying to topple the regime and Islam simply defending itself? Did you ever think of that?

no. But I'm pretty sure thats not how it happened either.

RexRed wrote:

Christianity and Judaism has spread in much the same ways through wars... Christians once ruled Jerusalem remember?

I dont think there ever was a "christian empire" as such. Setanta is the man for an answer here. The Jews never had an empire. I accept they are trying to build one now starting with Israel and help from the USA but I think its just plain wrong to suggest Judaism in the past spread through conquest, the reverse if anything.

RexRed wrote:

What were one generation removed pagan Europeans doing in the holy lands? $

They were Christian knights on holiday doing a bit of saracen bashing. Football supporters are similar today.

Is this true? If someone decides to stop being a Muslim and follow another faith, then does the Koran (and therefore the social laws that are derived from it) require, or even hint at, a death penalty?

...Just to set you straight, the Christian "church" of England had a "king" too and it was an "empire" (during the crusades)...

Maybe theologically the Europeans were on the wrong side of the Bible with their pagan trinity?

Is that really a laughing matter? ...