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Reply Mon 20 Feb, 2006 01:31 pm
I think that Krishnamurti's warning against "becoming" (because it involves strife) is an ironic statement. To ambitiously become something else is really to go from one fixed state of being to another, more ideal, fixed state of being. Once one has achieved the ideal fixed state, he tries to hold onto it, not to let it become something else--until another contrasting ideal comes along. In that case, "not becoming is strife."
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Reply Mon 20 Feb, 2006 05:30 pm
Becoming.

Krishnamurti might have been referring to THIS. Consciousness doesn’t become, it’s not in motion or process. The scene passes by, apparent things come and go, but this nothing, this impersonal awareness, does not. Becoming is identification. In ceasing to identify one ceases becoming,….and ceases to suffer. Suffering is associated with change. (though of course there is no one ceasing or not ceasing to become, or suffering or not suffering etc. It’s all a ruse.)

Nisargadatta will reminds us, ‘You are not the body or the thoughts. Stop pretending’…..(paraphrase). There is no self.
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Reply Mon 20 Feb, 2006 05:57 pm
JLNobody wrote:

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In that case, "not becoming is strife."


‘not becoming’ is impossible if everything (accept This) is moving (apparently), but I see what you mean.

As a one Zen one said, ‘You look like you’ve been riding a tattered horse.’ (fixated)
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Reply Mon 20 Feb, 2006 06:02 pm
We are a part of all we have met, so as they become, we become. If that is destiny then so be it.
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