Actually, there is no physical evidence to prove he existed.
Is there physical evidence Julius Ceasar existed? Curius is all...
There are coins from Ceasars time bearing his likeness.
Of course, I've got coins that contain the word God (though not Jesus).
That's not physical evidence that he existed though.
There are writings from historians and a couple of Caesars discussing Jesus.
So, you refute this?
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Q: "Are there any historical writings, other than the Bible, that prove that Jesus ever really lived?"
our A: Yes. Cornelius Tacitus (A.D. 55-120) was considered the greatest historian of ancient Rome. He wrote of Nero who "punished with the most exquisite tortures, the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities. Christus [Christ], the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time, broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originiated, but through the city of Rome also."1
Also, Flavius Josephus, a Jewish historian, (A.D. 38-100+) wrote about Jesus in his Jewish Antiquities, saying that Jesus was a wise man who did surprising feats, taught many, won over followers from among Jews and Greeks, that Jesus was believed to be the Messiah, was accused by the Jewish leaders, was condemned to be crucified by Pilate, and was considered to be resurrected.2
The existence of Jesus Christ is recorded not only by Josephus and Tacitus, but also by ancient writers such as Suetonius, Thallus, Pliny the Younger, and Lucian. And from the Jewish Talmud, "we learn that Jesus was conceived out of wedlock, gathered disciples, made blasphemous claims about himself, and worked miracles, but these miracles are attributed to sorcery and not to God."3
Thus, historians both favorable and unfavorable regarding Jesus did write about him. Also there were many historical writings about the early Christians.
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You refute that he is spoken about in rather unsavory terms in some ancient Jewish writings?
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What was all that hub-bub about around 33AD?
McGentrix wrote:Is there physical evidence Julius Ceasar existed? Curius is all...
Yes, it's true: the only physical evidence we have points to the existence of Curius.
Quote:Quintus Curius Maximus Fistula (app. A.D. 27 - 65): Curius was a general in the Roman army during the early imperial period. In A.D. 59 he led the invasion of Albania, for no good reason. He is briefly mentioned in Suetonius's Lives of the Caesars as "the most aromatic man in all of Rome." Curius served as proconsul in the province of Latvia (current day Lithuania) after reportedly receiving the command of the emperor Claudius (A.D. 41-54) to "go somewhere, anywhere!" Upon his return to Rome, he married the emperor's "kissin' cousin," Octavia Agrippina Enema, who bore him three children -- "one of each," as he liked to joke at parties (but, sadly, it was true). In A.D. 65 the emperor Nero falsely accused his wife Poppea of adultery and stomped her to death: Curius, unfortunately, was underneath Poppea at the time. Although many of the details of Curius's life are sketchy, historians are certain that he existed. A fragment of Curius's diary has been preserved in the Vatican Library, starting with the famously enigmatic sentence "Sum Claudius fluvus" (I am Curius, yellow).
Easy, pray for a miracle to happen and problem solved!
I mean come on he's the son of god, I'm sure he can pull some strings around hu?
Even better, since the preach can talk to god (as every preach claims to do) why not ask him directly for proof?
Cut the middleman out! I'm sure god keeps a copy of Jc's birth certificate around....
Deuteronomy 6:16 ~ Do not test the Lord your God.....
So.... believe in me because I say so?
Reminds me of the wmd argument of someone who claims to speak to god also.
pure bullcrap.
That's why they call it faith. :wink:
I think it's called blind faith
I gather that. Perhaps in the very beginning when one first believes it is blind faith. But as one grows in their relationship with God it's no longer blind.
What do I pray for? Peace. Goodness for humanity. Wisdom and understanding. Lots of things.