This is really, really disgusting.

i've seen one in a Children's Hospital. if they must have a franchise, it ought to be a starbucks IMO.

Well, that certainly is disgusting. At the Ohio State University Medical Center, they'd have none of that . . .





























. . . they have a Wendy's.

So how was your supersized Big Mac xtra value meal with apple pie?

Hey man, they sell grilled chicken. If only the fat people weren't so fat, they'd order that instead.

Yeah, and it's been decades since a patient could get a pack of Camels without walking that mile.

If you want a heightened sense of how inappropriate it really is, rent a movie called, "Supersize Me."

Re: This is really, really disgusting.


But McDonalds have that new, healthy menu, don't they? <sigh>

And they're now probably subsidizing that hospital's running costs. Cheaper for the local government, the patients ... isn't that the theory? <sigh>

Privatization, by stealth. Eat McDonalds & keep your hospital open. Because the government doesn't want to pay what it costs. <sigh>

That really sucks.

It's like a factory for health capitalism - help make 'em sick, pay a bit towards correcting what you help do, and capitalize on people being gathered together around the sick - while looking good to anyone who doesn't think...

Perfect...

Health care has been a marketable commodity for years. You know we really do live in very sick societies.

Yeah - and those disgusting American HMOs wanna get their claws into our system, and milk US.

I suspect it won't be long before the protections - such as they were - in the free trade agreement (except for commodities the US doesn't want to let in cos we are more efficient producers, but I digress) are attacked.

You think it bad now?

I am keeping an eye on my medicines. Already I think they are more expensive than they used to be but that could be paranoid me. Howard has sold us out for a pat on the head. Our farmers will go berserk but of course the Nats have made an art form of selling them out.

Yep, disgusting.

bm

Truly excellent article about American health care here:

http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/050829fa_fact

Brought a lot of things into focus for me.

I dunno - I have fought this one out with Craven - and he persuaded me there is a good argument that "free trade" has benefits for the third world....


But I think the way it is pushed - and distorted - by powers like America - is not good.

But - I don't know from economics...

Well, at least at the hospital McDonald's you won't be as shocked to find a syringe in your Big Mac. It creeps me out when that happens at the one they have inside Wal Mart.

Just think of all those poor in-patients living on fat free and liquid diets—suffering with the thoughts, that appetizing greasy fast food is just an elevator ride away.

Hospital vs. McDonald's in Fast Food Fight


Leading Hospital Tries to Remove McDonald's From Its Premises


Dec. 15, 2004 — The Cleveland Clinic — the nation's leading center for cardiac care — has decided the McDonald's restaurant in its food court just isn't a good fit with health care.

Virtually all the nation's nutritionists say fast food is not what Americans should be eating.

"We have a lot of cardiologists and cardiac surgeons that have been saying for a while, you know, we need to make a change," said clinic spokeswoman Angela Calman. "We need to be a role model."

After Dr. Toby Cosgrove was named the clinic's new chief executive officer, he launched something of a health crusade. Smoking may soon be banned — even directly outside the clinic — and vending machines may soon be cleaned out.

Cosgrove has already done away with the clinic's Pizza Hut, and indications are that the Starbucks coffee shop and Subway sandwich store may not be far behind.

"The bottom line is, we need to make some changes here, and we certainly aren't trying to go to war with anyone," said Calman.

McDonald's is fighting what amounts to an eviction notice and says it has no intention of terminating the remaining 10 years on its lease with the clinic. A spokesman said the chain is proud of the fare it serves.

"We've been actively working with the Cleveland Clinic to help educate our customers how to eat smart," said Dr. Kathy Kapica, McDonald's global director of nutrition.

The clinic says yearlong discussions about removing the restaurant have been going nowhere because while McDonald's offers to add healthy alternatives, it says it will not remove burgers and fries from the menu.




Nutritionists: McDonald's Removal Overdue

Some say the clinic's move is long overdue.

"It really doesn't make sense to serve food that's associated with an increased risk of chronic disease in a setting dedicated to treating chronic disease," said Dr. David Katz, a nutrition expert at Yale University.

Still, it is not unusual for hospitals to offer fast food in their food courts, and McDonald's does not have a lock on the business. The Hardee's chain has a restaurant at the Duke Children's Hospital in North Carolina, where patients can order the 1,400-calorie "Monster Thickburger."
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Say what you will, I don't know of any country -- anywhere in the world --that has a medical care system that is flawless.

Socialized medicine certainly has its flaws. I'd much rather stick with the system (including the HMO's) that we currently have in the US, thank you very much.

I have yet to see any country (including Australia) that has come up with a way to provide medical care that doesn't have both advantages and disadvantages.

Yep - that is true.


But I will be fighting any attempt to introduce yours here tooth and nail.