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COSTS OF WAR IN IRAQ

 
 
blatham
 
Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 04:45 am
THE COST OF WAR IN IRAQ

6 Billion Every Month.

As of precisely the time of this posting, expenditures on the Bush operation to rid the world of Sadaam's bulging nuclear/chemical arsenal and to strike a blow against those responsible for 9/11 though the brilliant stratagem of attacking a non-related nation thus increasing hatred and distrust of BushAmerica by pretty much everyone in the world, these expenditures could also have provided:

23,614,699 childrent to attend a year of Head Start

Every child in the world given basic immunization for 59 years

106,761,638 children insured for one year

3,089,822 additional public school teachers for one year

8,643,210 students a four year scholarship at university

1,605,354 additional housing units

Fully funded global anti-hunger efforts for 7 years

Fully funded worldwide AIDS programs for 17 years


*Note: these pro-life war costs do not include calculations regarding "Hayekian Indiscernibles": eg, dead young American women and men; blindness, limblessness, disfigurement; blown apart families of the wrong faith or skin color; international disfavor and disgust; severe internal American discord; replacement of principle and christian charity with greed, deceit and murderousness.
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 05:33 am
Just for kicks, the US broke the one day record this month for tax revenues....collected 61 billion dollars in one day.
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 05:35 am
BM
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 06:00 am
Brand X wrote:
Just for kicks, the US broke the one day record this month for tax revenues....collected 61 billion dollars in one day.


Wow. Now what?
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 06:01 am
goodfielder wrote:
Brand X wrote:
Just for kicks, the US broke the one day record this month for tax revenues....collected 61 billion dollars in one day.


Wow. Now what?


Spend it and give it away like a drunken sailor. Very Happy
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 06:18 am
Seconded Very Happy
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msolga
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 06:28 am
blatham

I'd argue that the biggest cost (to the US) of the war in Iraq is loss of credibility in the international community & the loss of hope as a result. There was so much good will & sympathy for the US after 9/11 & it was blown so quickly by the Iraq invasion. How do you cost the loss faith in the US as a moral force in the world? The costs you've mentioned are a terrible waste, but the loss of the US in the struggle for fairness & decency in the world is devastating.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 06:33 am
ms

yuppers
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thethinkfactory
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 06:59 am
I do believe that America had the power to do something really great after 9/11. But after the fear mongering war machine of America took over (voted on with one decenter in the Senate) we blew it all to **** on bombs and sent ourselves back to the stone ages of thought. We kill bad before they kill good.

Sad.

TF
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 07:33 am
JFK once said "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty".
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 08:07 am
JustWonders wrote:
JFK once said "Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty".


That is very funny!
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Brand X
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 08:53 am
"When asked on US television if she [Madeline Albright, US Secretary of State] thought that the death of half a million Iraqi children [from sanctions in Iraq] was a price worth paying, Albright replied: "This is a very hard choice, but we think the price is worth it."

The cost of lives and money were huge during the Iraq sanction years too. I think we spent 10-12 billion per year militarily lost up to another 19 billion in exports per year.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 02:55 pm
"Threats to our liberty". Such a convenient conception. Republicans use the notion. Democrats use the notion. And most of all, weapons manufacturers and their friends use it. It's the war-mongers bestest trick.

Osama could, as we know, cream two important buildings and kill the three thousand or so innocent folks inside. But as a threat to 'American liberty', he'd rank somewhere around the Hell's Angels or a group of crazed red-blooded Oklahoma militia types. Sadaam had the capacity to lob rotten fruit but you poor schlepps were lied to about the big scary mushroom cloud and you bought it because you've been fed the same bullshit for so long it is foaming out of your own brains. How often do you hear the Swiss pissing their pants about threats to their 'liberty'?

You'd think perhaps you guys might get a clue when you find out that the swine who set this war in motion have avoided coming within a million miles of being soldiers themselves (Bolton: "The thought of dying in a rice paddy didn't appeal to me." etc etc). Run through the execs at Halliburton and Northrup and Boeing and the AEI and take a peek at how many of these ratfukkers are deigning to send their children over to Iraq.

All just a ton of happy Fourth of July fun, outside of the hundred thousand or so Iraqis and Afghanis blown to ****, the growing disgust in the rest of the world at what America is turning into, the maimed (outside and in) American kids who 'survive', the imbecilic drive towards exactly what you really don't want, and all the real life-affirming and life-saving things that COULD have been done with this money and these people.

Lincoln warned you that you ought not to fear the dismantling of your democracy through external threat, but rather that you would bring it down on yourselves. You're doing just a wonderful job at pushing the thesis.

Citizens out on the street protesting government policies...writers in the press pointing out inconsistencies and deceits...courts and congress that do not just rubber stamp the latest debauched grab for power...such citizen engagement in the nation is what you consider a threat to democracy when it is evidence of democracy. Fox turns into Pravda and you think it is just swell.

There oughta be a law. Specifically, that law ought to demand that every set of chess pieces have pawns with big doofus grins on their faces.
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rayban1
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 03:57 pm
Condider the cost of doing nothing:

Another million or so Iraqis fed into the people shredding machines......sometimes head first.....sometimes feet first.

Not knowing how many Al Queda training camps were spitting out thousands of new blood thirsty killers and giving them cash and phony papers to use on Americans as they pour across the Mexican border.

Not knowing the extent of Saddams efforts to create a nuclear arsenal.......I know I sleep a lot better knowing that madman is behind bars

Not knowing what deals Saddam and the guy in Syria have hatched together for outfitting more suicide bombers to send into Israel.

Not knowing what deals Saddam has hatched with Iran to subvert the ME into one big cesspool of violence.

Money is only good if you can spend it on something useful........haven't you heard? The war is over and we won. Twisted Evil
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 04:02 pm
... and that is even funnier!
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Debra Law
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 04:55 pm
msolga wrote:
I'd argue that the biggest cost (to the US) of the war in Iraq is loss of credibility in the international community & the loss of hope as a result. There was so much good will & sympathy for the US after 9/11 & it was blown so quickly by the Iraq invasion. How do you cost the loss faith in the US as a moral force in the world? The costs you've mentioned are a terrible waste, but the loss of the US in the struggle for fairness & decency in the world is devastating.


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Repercussions of America's 'war on terror'

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How can the U.S. government credibly trumpet democracy and human rights while it continues to block attempts to hold it accountable on those same principles? Thus far, the Bush administration record for suppressing information about abuses is far more compelling than their record for sharing information.

The Bush administration needs to radically recalibrate its approach to the war on terrorism. This is a war of values - promoting freedom, democracy, and human rights against intolerance and extremism. Thus the U.S. must lead with real American values, values that abhor torture, secret prisons, and government cover-ups. . . .

Yet the Bush administration has done surprisingly little to counter impressions that the U.S. supports neither human rights nor accountability for those who violate them. One abuse scandal can be called an aberration, but there is clearly a pattern here. Punishing a few low-level soldiers a year after the abuses make headlines is hardly going to sway the Islamic world that the U.S. takes these issues seriously.

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chiczaira
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 07:52 pm
Blatham tells us that Iraq is costing us 6 Billion a month. He does not tell us where the 6 Billion is going. Is it being put into the Euprhrates? Or scattered in the dust at Babylon?

It couldn't be that some of that money was actually going to American firms who are building military equipment and supplying our troops.

Six Billion a month says Blatham. He gives no link. I don't know where he got the figure.

Six Billion a month equals 72 Billion a year

That is slightly less than three quarters of one percent of our Gross Domestic Product. I say we can afford it.

Blatham thinks the money can be put to better use. I would suggesst that he and others who agree with him get to work to try to take the House and/or Senate from the Republicans so that the money can be directed to more appropriate uses.

I do not think that Blatham can be optomistic that this will happen so I am very much afraid that all he will be able to do is to continue to whine.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 08:00 pm
edited to conform to chic reality.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 22 Jun, 2005 08:04 pm
Did this thread get retitled.... "Make up something funny about Iraq" after the first post?
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chiczaira
 
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Reply Thu 23 Jun, 2005 12:23 am
Parados- Is your avatar a picture of a whining child?

How apt!!!
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