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Huge article with many hyperlinks. Yeah, the Christian world had its own experience with slavery, but you need to open a history book to read about it. You can read about the muslim experience with slavery by buying a newspaper.

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yes. that doesn't make us any better. if anything, it makes us morally responsible to take a stance and help in the fight against slavery.
but i need to point out that the Janjaweed Arabs are not muslims. They are nomadic arabs (remember arad does not equal muslim), backed up by the Khartoum government (they officially admited training 10,000 Janjaweed militia, in reality it was probably a lot more). The enslaved population is largely muslim (but not exclusively, there are also christians and animists amongst darfurian). non-arabic, black population. so i am not sure what is meant by 'muslim' experience with slavery.

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gungasnake wrote:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17747

Huge article with many hyperlinks. Yeah, the Christian world had its own experience with slavery, but you need to open a history book to read about it. You can read about the muslim experience with slavery by buying a newspaper.

It's ok for them, its a culture thing. We have to remember to forgive Islam for its faults, they are not American. It is only American religious people who have to answer for their past mistakes.

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who says that?

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That's the Liberal straw man he likes to put up. You can find a version of it in pretty much every thread.

Cycloptichorn

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alright, i'll make it real simple than: not all slave owners today are muslim. certainly in case of sudan that's false. that is all. many slaves there are black muslims. enslaved by nomadic arabs. non-muslims. get it?
that doesn't make any commentary on muslims or jihad. i dislike extremism of any sort - religious (whether in form of jihad, or christian religions meddling into politics, hindu nationalism..), or political (left as well as right).
truth is way more complex and doesn't operate in black and white only.

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Cycloptichorn wrote:

That's the Liberal straw man he likes to put up. You can find a version of it in pretty much every thread.

Cycloptichorn

I was working off of the cultural defence that has been used around the country to get people off of murder charges. It isn't a straw man, it is the truth.

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"It's ok for them, its a culture thing. We have to remember to forgive Islam for its faults, they are not American. It is only American religious people who have to answer for their past mistakes."

Is this sarcasm? It looks serious but I get the feeling you must be being sarcastic. Sorry but this just went over my head.

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gungasnake wrote:

Huge article with many hyperlinks. Yeah, the Christian world had its own experience with slavery, but you need to open a history book to read about it. You can read about the muslim experience with slavery by buying a newspaper.

The arabic world is culturally less advanced than much of western or asian culture. Gosh. Can't wait for the next fascinating insight :wink:.

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Yeah, the Christian world had its own experience with slavery, but you need to open a history book to read about it.

Damn good thing folks like you BURN those pesky books!!

....and have brave souls in your Senate to castigate them uppity n****s...

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/images/politics/july-dec02/1224race1.jpg

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When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years

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*2002!! You'd think it was.... like 1902.... or 1852....

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Mr Stillwater wrote:

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Yeah, the Christian world had its own experience with slavery, but you need to open a history book to read about it.

Damn good thing folks like you BURN those pesky books!!

....and have brave souls in your Senate to castigate them uppity n****s...

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When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years
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*2002!! You'd think it was.... like 1902.... or 1852....

90% Of the problems black people experience living in America could be eliminated by outlawing the demokkkrat party.

http://www.townhall.com/bookclub/parker.html

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gungasnake wrote:

Mr Stillwater wrote:
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Yeah, the Christian world had its own experience with slavery, but you need to open a history book to read about it.

Damn good thing folks like you BURN those pesky books!!

....and have brave souls in your Senate to castigate them uppity n****s...

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When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We're proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn't have had all these problems over all these years
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*2002!! You'd think it was.... like 1902.... or 1852....

90% Of the problems black people experience living in America could be eliminated by outlawing the demokkkrat party.

http://www.townhall.com/bookclub/parker.html

100% of the problems experienced by anyone could be eliminated by outlawing rampant capitalism Very Happy

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goodfielder wrote:

100% of the problems experienced by anyone could be eliminated by outlawing rampant capitalism

They did that in Sparta. They abolished gluttony by having everybody eat at a common table, where they served food which was nourishing, but flavored to taste so bad that nobody ate more than he needed to nourish his body.

They also abolished greed, by making the only legal currency some sort of an iron wheel worth about a tenth of a centavo, weighing about 200 pounds, and salt-cast to make it worthless even as iron.

And then they put up a sign on the road saying "Welcome to Sparta. Only a$$holes live here. If you are an a$$hole, you are home!!"

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Is that Sparta, Mississippi like in that film The Heat of the Night ?

Of course it was! Jeepers you're a kidder. They didn't have capitalism back in ancient Sparta of course.

So, they really did put that sign out in Sparta, Miss. eh? Wasn't too friendly. Would have kept the tourists away I would have thought.

Good film though.

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