If Jesus died to forgive us, then why is there a Hell?

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dyslexia wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:
Momma Angel wrote:
So Dys,

My believing in God makes me evil?

You're not evil ... it's your belief in God that is evil .... right, dys?

Um well, believeing is one thing but to paraphrase some book or other it's the works not the words that condemn you. As an example, when you or anyone for that matter ranks "supernatural" law above man's law we are bound to encounter evil. If you actually care to think about it, we as a society conceive law in an atttempt to stabilize and benefit the society of mankind we live in but when we defer that body of law to a "supernatural" law-giver we are then creating evil. Examples would include US Protestant Manifest Destiny as well as muslim suicide bombers along with a long history of genocide and barbarism generated by religion superceding human rights. Tico, if you really don't want my opinion and can only offer your sarcastic barbs, I shall refrain from attempting to answer your questions honestly which is what I have been attempting to do here. Shall we continue honestly or shall we continue your route?

Good grief, dys ... your Sarcasm Meter is on the fritz. I thought I was clarifying your position to MA, as I understood it to be based on your prior response. My responses to your responses have been honest as well, and not intended to be sarcastic.

Which is not to say I'm never sarcastic, because we both know I frequently am, and I don't always announce when I am ... Sometimes my tongue is firmly in cheek, and I leave it to you to guess when ... hmm, sound like anyone else we know?

But I assure you, in this case I was not being sarcastic, but instead trying to reformulate your statement so you could verify I was understanding it properly. Sorry for the confusion.

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Let me weigh this out:

Tico's sarcastic barbs<<<vs.>>>Frank's altruistic persuasion.

Frank's well intended corrections<<<vs.>>>Nasty old Tico.

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dyslexia wrote:

My guess MA is that Tico does not like to see in print what I write even though he asked for my explantion and having no rebuttal to offer resorts to sarcastic barbs. What do you think? Now honestly I don't mind going either way with this but I would like to know which is prefered, honest commentary or sarcastic barbs.

Your guess is wrong, as it often is. I have no rebuttal for you because you have merely offered your opinion. I find your opinion to be wrong ... but that is merely my opinion. You are entitled to have a wrong opinion ... including your opinion regarding my opinion. :wink:

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Ticomaya wrote:

dyslexia wrote:
My guess MA is that Tico does not like to see in print what I write even though he asked for my explantion and having no rebuttal to offer resorts to sarcastic barbs. What do you think? Now honestly I don't mind going either way with this but I would like to know which is prefered, honest commentary or sarcastic barbs.

Your guess is wrong, as it often is. I have no rebuttal for you because you have merely offered your opinion. I find your opinion to be wrong ... but that is merely my opinion. You are entitled to have a wrong opinion ... including your opinion regarding my opinion. :wink:

Well ok then, honest attempts at commentary are out the window and I will concede to Tico's preference for sarcastic barbs. Sad kinda but not really bothersome.

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Maybe bashing Dys could be fun after all. You wouldn't have to try very hard.

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go for it neo, you need a little excitement in your life anyway.

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Dys,

Was this meant as honest commentary or a sarcastic barb?

These are your words from another thread.

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I pony what mama might have been intending as that old Moral Lesson. Me believing in moral absolutes, I pony that there aren't many good droogs in this litso at all, no! In truth the Government is the Lewdie as much as old Dys is. So as the citizenry ponys its own morality, are we to take away "Boys will be boys!" from this? Tolchock that, O my Brothers! Lewdies are lewdies! Like love him or like hate him, Dys prevails throughout so much of his own Malchick days and beyond, so one, if morally inclined might set his or her glazzies on what Moral Lesson Mama like promises us, Brothers! No morality is easy, I pony, so the moralistic weight of the modern world might just be on thy pletchoes, Brothers! So be it.

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dyslexia wrote:

go for it neo, you need a little excitement in your life anyway.

It would be like kicking a puppy. Embarrassed

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Doesn't appear to be sarcasm MA. Lunacy perhaps, but not sarcasm. ;-)

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Now, now. Let's not call their opinions, etc., names. We may not agree but I don't want to see us falling into that trap.

At the time Dys posted that, and in the thread it was posted, it was taken as sarcasm by more than one.

I am just trying to point out (again) that calling names and all that is totally unnecessary.

Even Frank was being nice yesterday. And (don't take this the wrong way Frank), but if Frank can refrain, then we all can.

Very Happy

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Would mordant satire be ok?

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Intrepid wrote:

Doesn't appear to be sarcasm MA. Lunacy perhaps, but not sarcasm. ;-)

Thought you might be interested in this:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17921

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Okay, let's all take a step back. We are all guilty of sarcasm, giggling at, etc. That's all I was trying to point out. We all have done it. Let's play nice!

So, who wants to start?

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Momma Angel wrote:

Dys,

Was this meant as honest commentary or a sarcastic barb?

These are your words from another thread.

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I pony what mama might have been intending as that old Moral Lesson. Me believing in moral absolutes, I pony that there aren't many good droogs in this litso at all, no! In truth the Government is the Lewdie as much as old Dys is. So as the citizenry ponys its own morality, are we to take away "Boys will be boys!" from this? Tolchock that, O my Brothers! Lewdies are lewdies! Like love him or like hate him, Dys prevails throughout so much of his own Malchick days and beyond, so one, if morally inclined might set his or her glazzies on what Moral Lesson Mama like promises us, Brothers! No morality is easy, I pony, so the moralistic weight of the modern world might just be on thy pletchoes, Brothers! So be it.

You will find, MA, that dys is partial to sarcastic commentary ... but only when it suits him. It is a rare moment indeed for him to be "honest" and not silly. It is not surprising that he would be reticent to remain so. Sad, but not really bothersome.

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Frank Apisa wrote:

Intrepid wrote:
Doesn't appear to be sarcasm MA. Lunacy perhaps, but not sarcasm. ;-)

Thought you might be interested in this:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17921

You found it ....

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Frank Apisa wrote:

Intrepid wrote:
Doesn't appear to be sarcasm MA. Lunacy perhaps, but not sarcasm. ;-)

Thought you might be interested in this:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17921

You found it. Now I know who it was... no shock there :-)

You have to admit that my literary piece on you in the Humour Forum was much gentler, kinder and perhaps even a bit humorous.

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Intrepid wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
Doesn't appear to be sarcasm MA. Lunacy perhaps, but not sarcasm. ;-)

Thought you might be interested in this:

http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17921

You found it. Now I know who it was... no shock there :-)

You have to admit that my literary piece on you in the Humour Forum was much gentler, kinder and perhaps even a bit humorous.

Yep.

And today..of all days...after almost a year of silence between us, McG and I engaged in battle.

I gotta link him to this at some point.

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Me'n Joe Sixpack have a friend by the name of Felbo.
Seems like Felbo went down to this fancy car dealer for a test drive and hopped into this real fancy sports job. Well, they started drivin' down the street and the sales feller was explainin' all the safety features:

"This car has built in protection against accidents," says the sales guy. "You can't make it get into an accident. Watch this!" Then he suddenly turns the wheel towards some oncoming traffic. Well, right off the car won't turn where the sales guy was a' pointin' it.

"Howcome that happened," sez Felbo. He couldn't believe his eyes.

"Well, the car has a built in protection against all road hazards. You can't speed. You can't miss a stop sign or traffic light. It's the latest technology."

"Wow, who wouldn't wanna have a car like this? sez Felbo. When can I take a drive?"

The sales feller pulls over and stops; then he sez "OK; how about now?"

So Felbo's a drivin' down the street with the sales feller in the passenger seat with the top down and just enjoyin' the dadbeatall of this new fangled car. He tries to swerve and the car won't hit nothin. He tries to not put on the brakes at the stop sign and the car stops anyhow.

"This is terrific!" says Felbo. "Say, what's that red button for on the dash board?"

"Well, that's to turn off the safety system. You'll have to drive the car yourself. Don't push it you could get killed."

Suddenly this guy named Dweebo pops up in the back seat and sez: "Don't listen to sales guy. He just wants to keep you from having fun. Press the button and you can make decisions about what is safe and what is unsafe all by yourself."

Well, Joe'n me were at Felbo's funeral payin' him his last respects, and Joe sez. "Felbo wuz a lot like that Frank feller warn't he neo."

"I think so Joe. I think so."

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LMBO!

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