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lady driver/performer

 
 
Reply Tue 17 Jan, 2017 10:59 am
Where I live, a female driver is often called a lady driver, and a female performer is referred to as a lady performer.

Do native speakers also use lady in place of female for such terms?

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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jan, 2017 11:56 am
@tanguatlay,
By and large, in the US we use "female," not "lady."

In the southern US I've heard "lady angler." Southerners tend to be more chivalric than others.
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centrox
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jan, 2017 01:13 pm
@tanguatlay,
tanguatlay wrote:
Where I live, a female driver is often called a lady driver, and a female performer is referred to as a lady performer.

In Britain, men used to talk about "women drivers", but these days the trend is firmly against mentioning gender in connection with occupations or activities, especially those which were previously considered the reserve of men, e.g. doctor, soldier, fire fighter, pilot, bus or train driver, manager, etc. It is usually seen as unnecessary. The term "lady" is often used as a polite alternative to "woman", e.g. a receptionist might phone a colleague and say "there is a lady to see you", particularly if the female person is present, but calling someone a "lady driver", or in fact a lady anything would be seen as desperately old-fashioned, quaint, and maybe rather condescending, and could well be resented.

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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jan, 2017 01:19 pm
@tanguatlay,
In Canada we generally don't use gender when describing a person. If necessary, female would be used. Lady would most definitely not be used.

See Contrex/Centrox's good points on why using lady isn't a good idea.
centrox
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jan, 2017 01:28 pm
Until surprisingly recently (1999) women police officers had the word "Woman" prefixed to their rank, e.g. "Woman Police Constable Smith", usually shortened to "WPC Smith". Similar arrangements were in place in the armed forces, there were separate organisations - the Women's Royal Army Corps (WRAC), the Women's Royal Air Force (WRAF), and the Women's Royal Naval Service (WRNS). These latter were called "Wrens" e.g. Wren Jones. A wren is a small bird, so you can see how belittling that term was seen to be. These distinctions were abolished in the 1990s.
tanguatlay
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jan, 2017 08:57 pm
@ehBeth,
ehBeth wrote:

In Canada we generally don't use gender when describing a person. If necessary, female would be used. Lady would most definitely not be used.

See Contrex/Centrox's good points on why using lady isn't a good idea.
Thanks, ehBeth.
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tanguatlay
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jan, 2017 08:59 pm
@centrox,
Thanks, centrox, for your detailed replies.
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Blickers
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jan, 2017 10:33 pm
@tanguatlay,
Also, about female performers, it used to be a rule that male actors were called actors and female actors were referred to as actresses. That is still the most common form, but there is a trend underway in media to refer to both male and female actors as actors. As of this post, actress is still more common for female actors, but it's getting close.
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