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Are the presidential election results real? Or simply a simulation?

 
 
oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2016 01:11 am
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

oristarA wrote:

maporsche wrote:


YOU certainly do not get to question his value to the physics community. He's forgotten more than you've ever known I'd reckon.


Go read The Grand Design by Hawking, a masterpiece of popular science which will make him unforgettable in your mind.


I've read everything he's written along with dozens of other physics books.


Yes? Would you like to answer two simple questions, I wonder?

(1) What are we intelligent beings according to his views?

(2) Maya Angelou, a medalist (Presidential Medal of Freedom) who said "We cannot change the past." Did Hawking agree with such viewpoint in his scientific writings?
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oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2016 05:18 am
@giujohn,
giujohn wrote:

Well I have studied Quantum physics and cosmology and while I'm no a physicist it is accepted by that community that with the exception of Hawking Radiation he is merely a mediocre physicist.


Well, who are excellent physicists in your eye then?
giujohn
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2016 07:48 am
@oristarA,
Alfven, Hannes Olaf Gosta
Alvarez, Luis Walter
Anderson, Carl David
Appleton, Edward Victor
Aston, Francis William
Ayrton, Hertha
Bainbridge, Kenneth T.
Bardeen, John
Barkla, Charles Glover
Becquerel, Antoine-Henri
Bell, John Stewart
Bhabha, Homi Jehangir
Bitter, Francis
Blackett, Patrick Maynard Stuart
Blau, Marietta
Bloch, Felix
Blodgett, Katharine Burr
Bogolyubov, Nikolai Nikolaevich
Bohm, David
Bohr, Niels Henrik David
Boltzman, Ludwig E.
Born, Max
Bose, Satyendra Nath
Bouchet, Edward Alexander
Bragg, William Henry
Bragg, William Lawrence
Brattain, Walter Houser
Breit, Gregory
Bridgman, Percy Williams
Brillouin, Leon Nicolas
Chadwick, James
Chandrasekhar, Subrahmanyan
Chapman, Sydney
Cherenkov, Pavel Alekseyevich
Cockcroft, John Douglas
Compton, Arthur Holly
Condon, Edward Uhler
Crookes, William
Curie, Pierre
Curie, Marie Sklodowska
Davisson, Clinton Joseph
DeBroglie, Louis Victor
Debye, Petrus
Dicke, Robert Henry
Dirac, Paul Adrien Maurice
Du Mond, Jesse William Monroe
Eddington, Arthur Stanley
Ehrenfest, Paul
Ehrenfest-Afanassjeva, T.A.
Einstein, Albert
Ellis, Robert A., Jr.
Fairbank, William Martin
Fermi, Enrico
Feynman, Richard Phillips
Fowler, William Alfred
Franck, James
Frank, Ilya Mikhailovich
Frank, Philipp
Franklin, Rosalind Elsie
Frenkel Yakov Ilyich
Frisch, Otto Robert
Fukui, Kenichi
Gabor, Dennis
Gamow, George
Geiger, Hans Wilhelm
Gibbs, Josiah Willard
Goppert-Mayer, Maria
Goudsmit, Samuel Abraham
Grad, Harold
Hahn, Otto
Hale, George Ellery
Heisenberg, Werner Karl
Hertz, Gustav Ludwig
Hess, Victor Franz
de Hevesy, George
Hilbert, David
Hodgkin, Dorothy Crowfoot
Hofstadter, Robert L.
Houtermans, Fritz Georg
Hubble, Edwin Powell
Imes, Elmer Samuel
Ioffe, Abram F.
Jensen, Johannes Hans Daniel
Joliot, Frederic
Joliot-Curie, Irene
Kamerlingh-Onnes, Heike
Kapitza, Pyotr
von Karman, Theodore
Kastler, Alfred
Kemble, Edward Crawford
Kerst, Donald William
Klein, Oskar Benjamin
Kramers, Hendrik A.
Kurchatov, Igor
Kusch, Polykarp
Land, Edwin Herbert
Landau, Lev Davidovich
Lande, Alfred
Langevin, Paul
Langmuir, Irving
von Laue, Max
Lawrence, Ernest Orlando
Leavitt, Henrietta Swan
Lehmann, Inge
Lemaitre, Georges
Libby, Willard Frank
Livingston, M. Stanley
London, Fritz Wolfgang
Lonsdale, Kathleen
Lorentz, Hendrik Antoon
Lyman, Theodore
Mach, Ernst
Marconi, Guglielmo
Marshak, Robert Eugene
Matthias, Bernd Teo
McMillan, Edwin Mattison
Meitner, Lise
Michelson, Albert Abraham
Millikan, Robert Andrews
Minkowski, Hermann
von Mises, Richard
Moseley, Henry Gwyn-Jeffreys
Mott, Nevill Francis
Mulliken, Robert Sanderson
von Neumann, John
Nier, Alfred Otto Carl
Noether, Amalie Emmy
Occhialini, Giuseppe
Onsager, Lars
Oppenheimer, J. Robert
Patterson, Clair Cameron
Paul, Wolfgang
Pauli, Wolfgang
Pauling, Linus Carl
Payne-Gaposchkin, Cecilia
Peierls, Rudolf E.
Perey, Marguerite Catherine
Perrin, Jean Baptiste
Planck, Max Karl Ernst Ludwig
Pockels, Agnes
Poincare, Jules Henri
Powell, Cecil Frank
Prandtl, Ludwig
Purcell, Edward Mills
Rabi, Isidor Isaac
Rainwater, Leo James
Raman, Chandrasekhara
Richardson, Owen Williams
Rontgen, Wilhelm Conrad
Rossi, Bruno
Rutherford, Ernest
Sabine, Wallace Clement
Sakharov, Andrei Dmitrievich
Salam, Abdus
Schiff, Leonard Issac
Schrodinger, Erwin
Schwarzschild, Martin
Schwinger, Julian Seymour
Segre, Emilio Gino
Serber, Robert
Shockley, William
Siegbahn, Karl Manne Georg
Slater, John Clarke
Sommerfeld, Arnold
Spitzer, Lyman, Jr.
Stark, Johannes
Stern, Otto
Street, Jabez Curry
Strutt, John William Rayleigh
Szilard, Leo
Tamm, Igor Yevgenyevich
Thomas, Llewellyn
Thomson, George Paget
Thomson, Joseph John
Tomonaga, Sin-itiro
Tuve, Merle Anthony
Uhlenbeck, George Eugene
Urey, Harold Clayton
Van de Graaff, Robert J.
Van Hove, Léon
Van Vleck, John H.
Walton, Ernest Thomas Sinton
Weyl, K.H. Herman
Wick, Gian-Carlo
Wideroe, Rolf
Wien, Wilhelm
Wiener, Norbert
Wigner, Eugene Paul
Wood, Robert Williams
Wu, Chien-Shiung
Yukawa, Hideki
Zeeman, Pieter
Zel'dovich, Yakov B.
Zernike, Fritz
Zwicky, Fritz
oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2016 10:50 pm
@giujohn,
Well, all these are resounding names in physics. But is there any one of them still alive? None?

I see that Richard Feynman and Albert Einstein are among them, two (or four?) strongest shoulders on which Hawking has been standing and successfully making himself outstanding in science. If you've read his works, you'd have known how he beautifully and creatively used the two science giants' theories and shed new lights on the fields.

Does scientific community see Hawking as a mediocre physicist? Let us see how Nature, one of the world's most cited scientific journals, depicted him:

Quote:
Most physicists foolhardy enough to write a paper claiming that “there are no black holes” — at least not in the sense we usually imagine — would probably be dismissed as cranks. But when the call to redefine these cosmic crunchers comes from Stephen Hawking, it’s worth taking notice.

Source: nature

That is, in Nature's eye, Hawking is far above the rank of mediocre physicists.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2016 05:42 am
Donald Trump, Loser-in-Chief
Our next president cannot stand that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote – and America will suffer for it

-Rolling Stone
oristarA
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2016 06:47 am
Quote:
The one quality that all of Trump’s picks for his cabinet and his transition team seem to share is an expertise in the dark art of disinformation.

WHY SCIENTISTS ARE SCARED OF TRUMP: A POCKET GUIDE

-The New Yorker
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 8 Dec, 2016 09:52 am
@oristarA,
Rolling Stone, the people who published the fake rape story don't understand that the Constitution says how the President is elected. The Constitution doesn't say anything about the popular vote. So once again Rolling Stone hasn't a clue as to what they are talking about, it would appear that you and anyone else doesn't either. Keep living in that pipe dream that the popular vote counts, it's the race to 270 and Trump won that race.
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 05:09 am
@Baldimo,
I can tell you that history is the best teacher since you are so ignorant.

Four years ago a man condemned with great indignation the Electoral College system. He said that the "phoney electoral college" should be overthrown by "revolution", that being against this "great and disgusting injustice" should be a great duty of the Republican Party. Because the man thought that the winner of popular vote should be President.(Source)

Four years later, the passion for the revolution turns out to be a burning shame in his bosom: for he now regrets that he said the words. To terminate the torturing regrets he lied that millions of Americans voting illegally to give Hillary Clinton the popular-vote victory.

This man's name is Donald Trump.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 05:14 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Rolling Stone, the people who published the fake rape story don't understand that the Constitution says how the President is elected. The Constitution doesn't say anything about the popular vote. So once again Rolling Stone hasn't a clue as to what they are talking about, it would appear that you and anyone else doesn't either. Keep living in that pipe dream that the popular vote counts, it's the race to 270 and Trump won that race.


What does the history tell us?

It tells us:

Donald Trump still has a trace of sense of shame in his heart.

And you? Is there any trace of sense of shame still left in you?
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 05:24 am
America is the People's America.

President is naturally the winner of popular vote.
Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 11:55 am
@oristarA,
Quote:
What does the history tell us?
It tells us:
Donald Trump still has a trace of sense of shame in his heart.
And you? Is there any trace of sense of shame still left in you?


What is with you lefties and shame all of a sudden? I thought leftwing senseabilities didn't rely on any sense of shame? Are you and Blickers the same person with 2 different accounts?
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 11:59 am
@oristarA,
Quote:
President is naturally the winner of popular vote.

Well this is a lie. This is the same as saying that the team who gets the most yards in football or has the ball the longest always wins, that isn't the case and that isn't how the rules are written.

The first to 270 in the electoral college wins the election, it's been that way since the first Presidential race.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 09:19 pm
@Baldimo,
Can I point out that we dont vote for the electors. They are appointed by the political parties. We vote for the people running for president not the electors. So Hillery would be president in a truly democratic government, which we are not. Now one of you conservatives post we arnt a democracy, we are a constitutional republic.
layman
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 09:26 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

Can I point out that we dont vote for the electors. They are appointed by the political parties. We vote for the people running for president not the electors. So Hillery would be president in a truly democratic government, which we are not. Now one of you conservatives post we arnt a democracy, we are a constitutional republic.


Sure, you can "point that out." The only problem is that, as usual, you are wrong.

Quote:
Choosing each state's Electors is a two-part process. First, the political parties in each state choose slates of potential Electors sometime before the general election. Second, on Election Day, the voters in each state select their state's Electors by casting their ballots for President.

The second part of the process happens on Election Day. When the voters in each state cast votes for the Presidential candidate of their choice they are voting to select their state's Electors.


https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/electors.html
RABEL222
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 09:40 pm
@layman,
I have voted every year since I was eligible and have never seen an electors name on my ballot. Most people vote for a person and dont understand the fact that electors are chosen by the political parties who are usually high ups in the party. A very non democratic state of affairs.
layman
 
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Reply Fri 9 Dec, 2016 09:44 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:

I have voted every year since I was eligible and have never seen an electors name on my ballot. Most people vote for a person and dont understand the fact that electors are chosen by the political parties who are usually high ups in the party. A very non democratic state of affairs.


Quote:
The potential Electors' names may or may not appear on the ballot below the name of the Presidential candidates, depending on election procedures and ballot formats in each state.


Either way, what you "see on the ballot" does not determine what is happening. Many, probably most, people think they are voting for president, as your post claimed. They aint. Know it, or not.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2016 10:50 am
@Baldimo,
Baldimo wrote:

Quote:
President is naturally the winner of popular vote.

Well this is a lie. This is the same as saying that the team who gets the most yards in football or has the ball the longest always wins, that isn't the case and that isn't how the rules are written.

The first to 270 in the electoral college wins the election, it's been that way since the first Presidential race.


That is "a total sham and a travesty"!
-Donald Trump

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Krumple
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2016 04:50 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:

Donald Trump, Loser-in-Chief
Our next president cannot stand that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote – and America will suffer for it

-Rolling Stone



It's silly. It's totally meaningless who won the popular vote. It's like saying McDonald's must sell the best burger in the world because it sells the most burgers. No. That would be absurd. The popular vote gets you nothing. What if TD had won both? I bet the left would still try to scramble to find something, like she won newyork, Trump's stomping ground so there! Eat that Trump supporters!

It's silly what "everyone is a winner" does to the stupid brain.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 06:39 am
@Krumple,
Krumple wrote:

oristarA wrote:

Donald Trump, Loser-in-Chief
Our next president cannot stand that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote – and America will suffer for it

-Rolling Stone



It's silly. It's totally meaningless who won the popular vote.


I think that Trump is at least smarter than you at this point. Being a loser of the popular vote is too great a burning shame for him to stand. So he lied that he won the popular vote too by lying that millions of voters voted fraudulently. He knows the popular vote is meaningful. For the future trend of evolution of the electoral system is moving in the direction of getting rid of the Electoral College and rewarding the winner of the popular vote the presidency.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2016 07:29 am
Reuters:

Russia intervened to help Trump win election: intelligence officials

Sat Dec 10, 2016 | 3:00pm EST
 

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