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Feeling pretty helpless while on a break in my relationship

 
 
Kelll
 
Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2016 04:09 pm
I will warn people this is kinda long.

I’m currently feeling pretty stuck and helpless right now. I don't know if I should just start letting go before things are finally decided or hold onto some hope. I’m not sure what exact advice I’m looking for either, but I guess any thoughts or suggestions would be helpful if anyone has something to offer. I’m in a position where I’ve done all I can do and can only wait for the other person to speak to me about things.

About a month ago my SO of 3~ years called me and wanted to break up pretty much out of the blue because they stated the cliché “I love you, but I’m not in love with you anymore” yet they couldn’t give me any further explanation and then also stated they did not know if they were making the right decision. Rather than breaking up for good, we decided to go on a break and are currently still on that break, which is fine and I completely understand needing space to think for the both of us. It has given me time to evaluate things and I had written up an extremely personal, long, and detailed list/letter of some issues I recognized between us. I also provided suggestions to try to mend and rekindle things should they decide upon going that route. Some points are also reminders, personal feelings of mine, or observations that I felt we should possibly consider. There is a long-distance aspect of this relationship since we live four hours away and are in two separate countries, but we see each other at least once a month if not more. I think that in terms of what the future holds is also something that’s been an issue since we never properly talked about it. I know they are not keen on moving away from where they are, but as for myself, I would be happy to move to their area once I finish getting my degree and can find a job in my field. To give a TL;DR of the letter, I basically felt we had some communication issues and fell into a routine for a variety of reasons, and provided ways I was willing to work on things if they wanted to work on things as well.

I recently sent them what I had written and they responded that what I wrote really helped them out, but I didn’t know if that alluded to something good or not. They also said all the things I said were "good things" and that they hoped they could give me adequate responses. I told them they did not have to respond to the content of the letter until we actually sat down and talked about things, which we decided on speaking about it in what will be a couple weeks now. What makes this really hard is how our relationship currently is and how it’s always been. We met five or so years ago and became fast friends, and about three years ago we started dating. This has been one of the best relationships I’ve ever had and they have said the same thing. This is also the longest the both of us have ever been in a relationship, so we are both unfamiliar with how things work over extended time or what it feels like to just be going through a slump since all our other previous relationships have been a year or less.

Aside from being partners, we are also best friends. Even after we decided to take a break, we’ve been talking every day throughout the day about the things we normally talk about and stuff like that. It was just strange because even immediately after the day it happened, my SO never mentioned everything that had gone on. I ended up talking to them about some of the issues between us three weeks later before we were going to see one another for a weekend event we were attending in another city. I basically wanted to set some ground rules and figure out if we met people how do we introduce each other to other people and that kind of stuff. I also did bring up at the time that we desperately needed better communication between us and they agreed, and we’ve both started getting better wit that since then.

I have been trying to start to come to terms that they may want to end it and that I need to move on, but at the same time it’s very hard to do that while everything is so indefinite. I thought I was doing pretty well, even when I was with them over that weekend, but when we parted ways it was like everything I had been doing to start to come to terms with that fell apart. We had a great weekend together, which was fun, but it was also pretty strange as there was that elephant in the room type feeling at certain points. On top if it all, we are supposed to be seeing one another at some undefined time in the next few weeks to go to their family’s cottage for a weekend by ourselves.

I would understand ending things if there were reasons to that were harmful to ourselves or the other person. It's not like we're totally done with each other in the sense we don't want to talk/spend time together, have animosity between us, argue all the time, are unreasonable and unwilling to cooperate, belittle one another, try to control each other, disrespect one another, etc. – things like that that would be indicative of not trying to pursue things further since those issues would be lurking in the background waiting to resurface. We have a strong bond, similar interests, are supportive of each other, get along great, have a desire to spend time with each other, have fun with one another, talk to each other every day, and respect and trust one another. I think we just kind of became so comfortable with a routine that it became more of a companionship than a relationship. We are also both pretty passive people and are afraid to do and say a lot of things, which hasn’t helped our relationship grow. I already expressed to my SO in the letter this was an issue with myself and that I would start being more proactive when it came to things like this, which I’ve already started doing.

Only a few close friends and family members are aware of what’s going on with us at the moment since we’re both pretty private people. We have a mutual best friend that has talked to us both about this, and I think I’ve talked to them the most. It helps they know what both party is thinking and they are a good friend in the sense they won’t be like “oh so and so said” to the other person. However, I had sent the letter to this friend too before I sent it to my SO to make sure it was okay and my friend stated that a lot of things I covered were things my SO was worried about. My friend also did say that when they first talked to my SO about this, my SO seemed pretty set on just wanting to end things but at the same time they were so unsure of how they felt.

I don’t know if I should give up completely or allow myself to feel somewhat hopeful while still trying to prepare myself to move on, which will be very difficult to do given our relationship outside of being partners. I will respect whatever decision they do end up making, but I also hope we can have a chance to work on things. We’ve never had a huge issue before so I would find it somewhat odd if they just ended everything without even attempting to work on something that has been so meaningful to us for so long. Then again, that is their decision and there’s nothing I can do about that. I also find it kind of strange that they will only talk about this if I bring it up. Yet when I do, they are happy to talk about it and don’t seem to be avoiding it, if that makes any sense at all. They are under a lot of stress right now seeing as their family is moving (albeit to a new home in the same city), so that does not help on top of this, but I do not want to make excuses for them either. Some days I feel pretty good about the situation, and other days I feel like it’s doomed, which is pretty normal, but it sucks to go through. We are both young (23 years old each) and I know it's normal to have doubts and such, especially at such a young age.

I guess what I would like to know from anyone who took the time to read that wall of text is do you think this might just be some sort of rut we’ve gotten stuck in that has potential or should I really just try to start to really let it go so it won’t be as awful if my SO doesn’t want to work on possibly fixing things? As an outsider who does not know either party, what are your thoughts on our situation? Has anyone in a longer-term relationship experienced anything of this nature themselves before?

Thank you
 
jespah
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2016 04:46 pm
@Kelll,
You're pals. Which is lovely. But it's keeping this break from being anything but. It's also kind of keeping this situation from being much of a relationship, but I would chalk that up to distance as well.

It is easy and it is safe. It is also risk-free.

Those are not necessarily good things.


I am not saying you need to take foolish chances in life or fall in with people who will treat you poorly. But this has been an easy way out relationship for both of you. And from ages 20 - 23, so you missed out on the tail end of college-age dating.

This is where the dating experience changes pretty significantly. You stop having school as a fallback for finding friends and SOs. It turns into work or hobbies and so it becomes harder. But those people presumably have more in common with you. I was at this stage when I met my husband, and it was via the personals - before the Internet. If the time in history had been different, I would have used online dating or Meetup or the like. He most likely would have, as well.

All you have written about here are about your problems, discussing them, and then waiting on this person to get back to you. Please don't live your life this way.

Instead, please, go out and enjoy your existence. Don't hang around by the telephone or text and for God's sake don't use this person as your sole friend to talk things over with. It's time for this to be a real-live break with real-live space for you both to explore other things.

This does not mean you cannot be cordial but you both sound so damned available.

I admit I am not a fan of long-distance relationships. If they go on for about 2 years or more without progressing to someone (or both) moving, or a serious sign of commitment such as a proposal, then I feel they stagnate. Furthermore, they are safe little cocoons where people can hide away from the bother and effort and risks inherent in trying to meet other people.

I am also not a fan of long-term relationships before age 22 or so, 25. These are not arbitrary numbers. It's because people haven't matured yet, and they are caught at a moment before the significant change in dating life. We see them all the time here, people who had but one relationship and now a dozen years have gone by and they suffer from FOMO or they claim they can't leave a bad relationship because they foolishly invested a ton of time when the reality is that they squandered it. Of course, sometimes those situations work out, and I am abundantly aware that the people who come here for relationships advice are self-selecting. YMMV, but this is what I have seen a lot of.

Finally, one more thing. Relationships sometimes just plain run out of gas. You care for someone, and they care for you, but it just doesn't go the distance. And that is perfectly okay, by the way. The vast, vast majority of relationships don't work out. They aren't meant to. There is no shame in telling someone they are wonderful but they are not for your golden years, and you don't think you are for theirs. And that might be what's at play here.

Or maybe you are meant for the long haul. But you're not going to know that unless you make this break a real-live break instead of a slight variation in the long-distance conversations you have been having for three years.
Kelll
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2016 05:45 pm
@jespah,
@jespah

Thank you so much for everything you've said. You've been very, very helpful.

I agree that our being very good friends is keeping this break from truly being a break. I probably should have been more proactive when it came to ceasing a lot of contact when it came to going on a break rather than just responding to their messages.

I have been enjoying myself and living my life with other friends and such while on this break, so I definitely am not hung up on this all the time. It's something I think about when I'm sitting around not really doing anything like this evening haha. I concur with the statement that no one should live their life waiting for someone since that will only make you miserable. It probably came off from what I wrote that this is all I am worrying about, and I would like to assure you it's not. I think since I put it all in there to describe the issue, it came off that way without me intending it to.

I honestly never thought I would be in a long distance relationship, especially since I thought they didn't really work, but it happened. I would have moved there by now if I didn't have school keeping me where I currently am. Then again, as I had mentioned in my post, that is something that was never properly discussed with my partner, which it should have been/needs to be.

Personally, I would not even be looking for a relationship if I was not in one currently, nor was I looking for one when I got into this one. It kind of happened by mistake, albeit a good mistake. I'm outside of the norm when it comes to people my age dating; dating has never really interested me. I have only dated a few people and all of them I only ever felt something for because I had befriended them and there was a strong emotional connection that made me realize one day that maybe I would like to be something more than friends with them. Relationships - romantic or sexual - do not interest me at all unless I have that kind of connection with a person. So I personally do not feel as if I've missed out since it's not something I would have pursued if I had not been with someone already, but I completely understand where you're coming from and what you're talking about that the "college years" are when people need to try things and not miss out in a sense.

Yeah, that definitely could be what's happening here, which is okay with me. If it is, we had good run and I'm really happy to have had them in my life this way. Once again, I think I do need to make this break a total break from each other and see where the both of us stand after that.

Once again, thank you.
jespah
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2016 07:25 pm
@Kelll,
Hey, I'm just a Boston terrier in a pink bunny suit. Smile

Seriously - you might have some ace tendencies. Which is not horrible. Or you could just be picky. I dated a lot in high school. My elder brother did not. We both met our spouses later and we are both married over 20 years. He just needed the right someone.
Kelll
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2016 11:04 pm
@jespah,
Hey, having a Boston terrier in a pink bunny suit helping me out brightens my day (;

I'm pretty sure I do as it's something I've thought of before, but if it's with the right person I'm all for it so who even knows haha. I might just be extremely picky or a bit of both; I don't try to dwell on it too much. That's great that both you and your brother found someone amazing though!

Once again thanks for your words of wisdom!
jespah
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2016 06:17 am
@Kelll,
Aw, shucks. Kinda hot here for a bunny suit right now.

And thanks - my husband is also on this site. He's probably answering some sports question or something. Smile
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PUNKEY
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2016 06:32 am
They said: "I love you, but I’m not in love with you anymore”

An explanation is needed. After 3 years, he/she should be able to verbalize what exactly this means. (You refer to your love as "they" - is this a same-sex relationship?)

It most often means there's another distraction (someone else?), or they are in a depression, or there's too much energy required to maintain the relationship.

You sure have over cerebalized this entire thing. Too much analyzing the situation and not enough passion shown by either of you.

Maybe your passive personalities are not good for each other.
Kelll
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2016 08:21 am
@PUNKEY,
I completely agree. The thing is, at the time, they said they could not give an explanation. And yes it is. For the sake of anonymity it just chose to refer to them as they.

I don't think there's anyone else, but they do have a history of depression so I was kind of thinking something along those lines too. I guess I just won't know until it's talked about.

Yes I probably have. I tend to over analyze a lot of things, which is not a good habit. I've been attempting to show some passion but I also don't want to be overbearing and give my partner space rather than pursuing the issue too much because I know that will push them away if they specifically asked for space and time to think. It's a hard balance to keep.

That could be too. Maybe we are just too similar.
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PUNKEY
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2016 09:35 am
No one should have to "work" to make a relationship flourish.

It's all about "Know when to fold 'em."
Kelll
 
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Reply Sun 28 Aug, 2016 10:24 am
@PUNKEY,
True that.
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Coconuts75
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jun, 2023 02:02 am
Kell,
It seems like you have a good heart and a pretty solid stable head on your shoulders. So I just say, use your common sense and ride out the rough patch, it never rains forever.
It sounds like you two are good friends regardless and that's most important for a good relationship. Maybe try adding a little flirting and romance in the mix. A lady loves to be flirted with even if it's someone that we see everyday. It reminds us that we are still cute or attractive to another person and motivates us to take care of ourselves. Like wearing more makeup and paying attention to our hair and clothes.
If she didn't love you she would already be gone.
Women don't tend to stick around just to be a house maid. If you catch my drift.
Yes dealing with depression is not a easy thing to do. Maybe she needs to find a new hobby.
I know myself when I start tanning and or do nice things for myself I tend to be a better and nicer person than usual to others.
Communication is very crucial during this time though, you need to look her in the eye and flat out ask her if she is interested in another man or is she willing to give your relationship 100%
Also have you ever considered that your woman might be jealous of another woman in your life?
The reason I ask is because when I am jealous and feel insecure in my relationship I tend to push my partner away. And then I don't tell my partner that I am growing a strong hatred for him because of the other person and my feelings of jealousy.
Childish yes, I know. I just can bring myself to admit to my partner that I hate him for making me feel that way.
I Don't want to be viewed as immature or stupid.
So I just suffer in silence.
Somethings are better left unsaid.
She Maybe dealing with some sort of jealously thing.
Either way I hope you two can talk through this.
It's too easy too just walk away.
Best of luck
Mame
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jun, 2023 08:09 am
@Coconuts75,
You do realize that the last post was in 2016, don't you? Pretty much a dead topic.
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PoliteMight
 
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Reply Thu 29 Jun, 2023 08:36 am
@Kelll,
23 is not "young". ( I am basing this on age of natural death with limited medical assistance ).

IDK your both women? Point being no baby no condom does not count. I know tons of women who claim to be "together" but in reality they are just "playing around" with each other. In my eyes does not count. Same with guys. You want that special someone hurray clap clap.

You can be in a relationship and have it "open". My uncle with his wife was like that. They would be husband and wife, sleep with each other. On the side they would look to other people not only to flirt with but do things with. My uncle's wife basically used him to save her money for a house she later brought. Now there daughter used it to raise her children and he was invited to live there in his old age.

I even know young wealthy couples. They are open as well. She has her and he has his. They just do not bring it around each others business. He knows it and does not care because they have this silent agreement with each other.
So she acts like a tease in front of him sometimes and he does the same. I watched this guy momentarily freak out when I was planning to go out with one of her employees. He got so jealous ........

There are all sorts of couples out there.








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