God exists, for me, in my heart.
A First Cause is only applicable to if the universe is finite. If the universe is infinite (without beginning, boundary, or ending), then there is no need for a Creator.
Finite models have alot of messy problems. What came before? No matter what the answer is it generates the same question ad infinitum. How can there be an "outside" to the universe, since the universe by definition is the whole shooting match. If something is identified just outside the boundary, then it becomes a part of the whole.
The notion of a deity who has a personality, who thinks and acts according to some conceptual idea, is a reach. The Abrahamic faiths ascribe to this supernatural being the ability to suspend the physical laws, and to communicate his wishes to humanbeings. There is, to that version of god, a divine plan that is perfect in its conception and certain in its outcome. By way of contrast, certain favored followers are said to have bartered, negotiated with god to change events. Those favored by that god can accurately foretell the future, yet the followers of the Abrahamic god inist that humans have unfettered freewill (a clear contradiction of terms). This is a god that is often depicted as jealous and vengeful, often even against those who transgress his laws unknowingly, or inadvertantly. Many Christians have held that an unbaptised infant who dies is condemend to hell for eternity, while a mass murderer who on his death-bed accepts Christ as a savior will go to heaven.
eoe wrote:God exists, for me, in my heart.
But that's not proof of his existence!
I'm well aware of scientific views about cosmology. I don't argue that the Big Bang didn't occur, only that it was not "Creation" but rather one event in an infinite chain of cycles, or pulses.
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Quote:I'm well aware of scientific views about cosmology. I don't argue that the Big Bang didn't occur, only that it was not "Creation" but rather one event in an infinite chain of cycles, or pulses.
What makes you so sure about this? Any proofs????
Humans are really strange!!!
They have never seen Gravity, but they believe in it. They just saw a mirror reflection of Gravity when objects fall on the ground!!!
They have never seen Strong Nuclear Force, but they believe in it. They just saw a mirror reflection of Strong Nuclear Force when protons in atom nucleus don't get dispersed!!!
They have never seen Electromagnetic Force, but they believe in it. They just saw a mirror reflection of Electromagnetic Force when electrons remained in the atom orbit!!!
They have never seen a black hole, but they believe in it. They just saw a mirror reflection of Stars vanished in seconds!!!
Humans only see between 400 to 800 nm of the light spectrum, only hear between 20 Hz to 20 KHz, ignore 99.99% of their DNA function, ignore 99% of the universe, get devastated by microorganisms they can't see.... But they insist: why can't we see God?????? Does God exist?
Just as humans believe strongly in mirror reflection of things they haven't seen, then why can't they believe in the Universe wonders, and the complexity of themselves that God has created to be a mirror reflection to His presence??
Humans believe that Nothing can not create Something, but they believe that this Universe was created from Nothing and by Nothing.
Humans do not accept that a book move from the bed room to the living room without a second cause, but they accept that this Universe and themselves were found without a second cause.
Peak of contradictions
God however, is Spirit. We cannot see Him, touch Him, smell Him, taste him. So He cannot be proved using conventional means. To me, the proof is in our very existence. It is unfathomable to me that life can come from nothing. The universe is too complex to have just happened. The ecosystem of our planet is just too complex to have just happened. So for me, faith in God is only a very small leap. But it does still take faith to believe in Him.