Where is the center?

@TomTomBinks,

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My imagination is not great enough to fathom the concept of "No Space", or "Nothing Outside"...

Yea Tom, it's something not available to the "minds' eye"

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Possibly there's no way to "get" it without the math...

I don't think there's the slightest need for math in these concepts

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@TomTomBinks,

We're all in the same boat. Nothing to fret.

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@TomTomBinks,

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I appreciate your input and the effort to help me understand, but I don't.

Sorry, wish I could be of more help

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You and some others seem to, or you're not letting not understanding bother you.

Why fret

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You call yourself the Average Clod, but I think you must be a professor of physics...

Why thank you Tom, but I'm a very ordinary old man, only a couple of physics courses to recall

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Since I'm not familiar with the math, I need a visual.

That's where the issues of its "shape, the "outside," etc dangle

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....at least he could fall back on it. Like "...if the value of this variable is less than n , then the universe has no definite shape.... then I accept the fact..."

As I had mentioned, I can't see how math is needed here

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@TomTomBinks,

From your point of view, everything you see around you is at the edge of your observable universe and you are the center of your observable universe.

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@RyanO45,

OK, that helps. New perspective. Thanks.

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@TomTomBinks,

If you want a vizualization think of it as a baloon that is expanding, yet there is no point on the baloon's 2D surface that is the center and there are no edges.

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@Robert Gentel,

Another good analogy, thanks!

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@TomTomBinks,

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good analogy

These guys express good'n's

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@dalehileman,

There seem to be some very well educated, well informed and even brilliant people here. There also seem to be quite a few "eccentrics", to be polite. I don't mind, I think it's entertaining to read the wide variety of opinions. There also seem to be some feuds going on between some individuals.... not really sure what to make of some responses and comments. Very good use of time, this forum. Informative, entertaining, cathartic.

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@TomTomBinks,

Yea Tom, again well put

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@TomTomBinks,

Here:
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html

I ran across this FAQ in my meanderings across the internet, and thought of this thread.

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@oralloy,

Awesome reference, thanks!

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