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GREAT FAMINE vs. GRAND FAMINE

 
 
Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2015 07:31 am
I wonder whether the meaning would be changed if I substitute "grand famine" for "great famine".

Context:

THE HISTORY OF CHINA'S MOST DEVASTATING CATASTROPHE
1958 - 1962

MAO'S GREAT FAMINE
 
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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2015 10:03 am
@oristarA,
I can only assume it's a historical event and that Great Famine is already an established and recognized name for said infamous event.

Grand Famine sounds too pretentious and might seem to be patronizing to any possible survivors of said man made disaster. So, yes. The meaning would be changed if you substitute "grand famine" for "great famine.
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ehBeth
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2015 10:22 am
@oristarA,
It's traditionally referrred to as China's Great Famine, but there is a book called Mao's Great Famine so it seems that Great Famine is the phrase to use.


It would be like one of us deciding that oristarA is no different from orisunA because the sun is a star.


I guess my point here is that it is Great Famine, not 'a great famine'. It's the name of the event, not a random descriptor that you can change.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2015 06:46 pm
Great Famine


Joe(don't mince words)Nation
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2015 06:51 pm
@oristarA,
China's worst disaster as I read it was the An Lushan rebellion.

Mao's regime was probably a close second.
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2015 10:31 pm
"Grand" has a positive connotation.

"Great" is more neutral.
oristarA
 
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Reply Wed 2 Sep, 2015 10:32 pm
Cool.
Thank you guys.
dalehileman
 
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Reply Fri 4 Sep, 2015 06:03 pm
@oristarA,
We have quite a remarkable crew don't we Ori
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McTag
 
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Reply Sat 5 Sep, 2015 01:26 pm
@InfraBlue,

Quote:
"Grand" has a positive connotation.


Absolutely. That's the point I was going to make. It's inappropriate for that reason.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 6 Sep, 2015 12:51 am
@McTag,
McTag wrote:


Quote:
"Grand" has a positive connotation.


Absolutely. That's the point I was going to make. It's inappropriate for that reason.


Not even be used sarcastically?
McTag
 
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Reply Sun 6 Sep, 2015 01:34 am
@oristarA,

As far as sarcasm goes, almost anything is possible. But imho it would be a strange subject for sarcasm or levity.
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FBM
 
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Reply Wed 9 Sep, 2015 03:33 am
@InfraBlue,
InfraBlue wrote:

"Grand" has a positive connotation.

"Great" is more neutral.


^ This.
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