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You don't say 'I rode my bike toward the park.'?

 
 
SMickey
 
Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 06:46 am
I learned the difference between 'to' and 'toward' today.
The point was 'to' is more generous in its meaning than 'toward',
and 'to' can be used instead of 'toward', but not the other way around.

Here are examples.

A. When I saw Jake, he was walking toward his office.
B. When I saw Jake, he was walking to his office.

Both A and B are okay.

C. He walks to work every day. (O)
D. He walks toward work every day. (X)

C is fine, but native speakers don't say like D,
which proves that 'toward' is not interchangeable with 'to'.

E. He rode his bike to the park. (O)
F. He rode his bike toward the park. (X)

Likewise, E is okay, but F sounds awkward.

Is it true?

I can understand C and D aren't exactly the same,
and E and F aren't.

However, I've some doubt if D and F, apart from C and E, still weird.
D and F are not only different from C and E, but also they're wrong?
Don't you native speakers say 'toward work' or 'toward the park'?
You always say 'to work' and 'to the park'?

Please help me get rid of my doubts.
I'd appreciate any comment from you.
 
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 07:03 am
@SMickey,
SMickey wrote:
A. When I saw Jake, he was walking toward his office.
B. When I saw Jake, he was walking to his office.


I don't know about American English, but in England we wouldn't say toward, but towards.

Basically when you use to, as in he was walking to church, the church is his destination. If you say he was walking towards church he is just moving in the direction of the church. He may be going to church, or he may walk past the church or stop somewhere else before he gets to the church
Tes yeux noirs
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 07:59 am
@SMickey,
As Izzy says, British English uses 'towards' more often than 'toward'.

A. When I saw Jake, he was walking toward his office.

You can say 'toward(s)' because you saw which direction he was walking in, and you know where his office is. He may or may not have arrived there.

B. When I saw Jake, he was walking to his office.

You can only say 'to' if you know he was going to his office (e.g. because he told you).


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saab
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 09:29 am
Can anyone explain to me why two good and clear answers on a grammar question get a thumb down?
Sometimes answers to a grammar question are answered so it is impossible to understand the answer or they are more or less wrong. Still these answers do not get a thumb down
Ionus
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 09:36 am
@SMickey,
In the following, the second one assumes you know his destination . The first one says he was heading towards his office but the destination is not assumed . He might have been going to the shops near his office .
A. When I saw Jake, he was walking toward his office.
B. When I saw Jake, he was walking to his office.


If you wished to talk about after his arrival you would say :
He walked TO work . At work, he noticed his shoes were muddy .
If you wished to break up the trip you would say :
He walked TOWARD work but was stopped by construction .
C. He walks to work every day. (O)
D. He walks toward work every day. (X)
Quote:
C is fine, but native speakers don't say like D,
which proves that 'toward' is not interchangeable with 'to'.
This is incorrect for reasons above . Native speakers do say D, but TO and TOWARD are not interchangeable . Ask yourself do you want to break and talk about the travel...if so use toward . If you want them to arrive at their destination and then talk about what happened next, use to .

Toward is more formal, say for report writing, whereas towards is more informal say for a novel . The British almost always use towards regardless . Modern trends in universal English is toward towards . Very Happy
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 09:40 am
@saab,
The usual reason for thumbs down is someone dislikes someone else . It has nothing to do with the quality of the post . There are many fine thoughtful posts that get thumbed down . Just ignore the thumbs like I do .
saab
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 10:30 am
@Ionus,
I usually ignore thumbs weather up or down.
I now and then give a thumb up when I like the answer. As you say thoughtful posts
Thumb dwon because you do not like someone?? Does a2k stand for away to kindergarten?
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 10:53 am
@saab,
I dont know why they have it . They introduced it with the new format as far as I know, which was some time back . Going by the number of people posting and reading, and in my experience there are only ever one or two thumbs up or down, then it seems rather pointless and very rarely used by the vast majority of people . I just ignore it . Other people's opinion has nothing to do with me .
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 11:33 am
@Ionus,
Ionus wrote:
Modern trends in universal English is toward towards .


don't try using towards in this part of Canada. Someone will roll their eyes at you. Someone else might say something snarky about you being snotty.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 12:04 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
don't try using towards in this part of Canada.
Really ? We tend to towards here...towards is snooty ? The same people separated by a common language .
layman
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 12:09 pm
@ehBeth,
Quote:
don't try using towards in this part of Canada. Someone will roll their eyes at you.


No one would ever do that with me, Beth, Canada or elsewhere, because I would NEVER say that.

I would just say "He done went that way," and point, ya know?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 12:16 pm
@Ionus,
towards is snotty/snooty

anything that sounds too British (English/Irish/Scots) tends to get a 'face'
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 12:17 pm
@layman,
yeah, that schtick would work well Rolling Eyes
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 12:31 pm
@layman,
In some 3rd world countries they point with their mouth and a nod of their head . Sort of pushing their lips in the direction . I always thought that was a bit lazy, but I guess if you are not getting many calories...
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 12:33 pm
@ehBeth,
It seems if I ever visit Canada I have to look out for mouses (big ones with horns) and being too towards ...anything else ?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 12:33 pm
@Ionus,
so who'd you piss off that's following you around with the happy down-thumb?
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 12:35 pm
@ehBeth,
I think I know of two, as they both get very hysterical during arguments . Am I allowed to say ?
ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 01:04 pm
@Ionus,
given that all the number gives you is a differential, there's really no way to know how many people (alters?) are involved
layman
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 01:37 pm
@ehBeth,
You're right. I have several people who follow me around and give me the thumbs down, but there are many more than that who get angry during arguments and who I have pissed off, so that doesn't tell me much about who's doing it.
layman
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2015 02:03 pm
@layman,
You can bet on one thing though. Whoever it is will never admit it. At least not if they have any sense. They wouldn't want others to know how childishly they are acting.
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