edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2015 09:19 am
Why No Scheduled Democratic Party Debates? Are They Afraid of Bernie? Time for Social Media to Force the Debate
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2015 09:23 am
@edgarblythe,
There ARE scheduled debates for the Dem party.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2015 09:30 am
@edgarblythe,
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/why-havent-democrats-settled-on-a-2016-debate-schedule-yet/article/2567969
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snood
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2015 09:36 am
It appears they've not settled on exact dates, only approximate. And only the state, rather than exact locations.

http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2016-debate-schedule/2016-democratic-primary-debate-schedule/
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2015 09:51 am
The DNC is pushing it off as far as they can for the sake of Clinton. I doubt these will happen. They don't want the country to see O'Malley and Sanders in an Anybody But Clinton climate.

Abuse of power - but that HRC's schtick.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2015 09:57 am
Loved Bernie's quote about weed.

...and that other thing about winning

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/249999-sanders-no-question-i-can-beat-clinton
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2015 03:49 pm
Danny Devito To Bernie Sanders: ‘You’re Our Only Hope, Obi-Wan Kenobi’
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2015 08:17 pm
Jimmy Carter: The U.S. Is an "Oligarchy With Unlimited Political Bribery"

Former president Jimmy Carter said Tuesday on the nationally syndicated radio show the Thom Hartmann Program that the United States is now an “oligarchy” in which “unlimited political bribery” has created “a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors.” Both Democrats and Republicans, Carter said, “look upon this unlimited money as a great benefit to themselves.”

Carter was responding to a question from Hartmann about recent Supreme Court decisions on campaign financing like Citizens United.

Transcript:

HARTMANN: Our Supreme Court has now said, “unlimited money in politics.” It seems like a violation of principles of democracy. … Your thoughts on that?

CARTER: It violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president. And the same thing applies to governors and U.S. senators and congress members. So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over. … The incumbents, Democrats and Republicans, look upon this unlimited money as a great benefit to themselves. Somebody’s who’s already in Congress has a lot more to sell to an avid contributor than somebody who’s just a challenger.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2015 10:55 pm
@edgarblythe,
Are you going to give the voters a chance or just appoint Bernie or Biden?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 1 Aug, 2015 11:04 pm
@RABEL222,
Your attitude is a little insulting.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 2 Aug, 2015 07:45 pm
The Revolt Against the Ruling Class
http://robertreich.org/post/125702366950
SUNDAY, AUGUST 2, 2015
“He can’t possibly win the nomination,” is the phrase heard most often when Washington insiders mention either Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders.

Yet as enthusiasm for the bombastic billionaire and the socialist senior continues to build within each party, the political establishment is mystified.

Political insiders don’t see that the biggest political phenomenon in America today is a revolt against the “ruling class” of insiders that have dominated Washington for more than three decades.

In two very different ways, Trump and Sanders are agents of this revolt. I’ll explain the two ways in a moment.

Don’t confuse this for the public’s typical attraction to candidates posing as political outsiders who’ll clean up the mess, even when they’re really insiders who contributed to the mess.

What’s new is the degree of anger now focused on those who have had power over our economic and political system since the start of the 1980s.

Included are presidents and congressional leaders from both parties, along with their retinues of policy advisors, political strategists, and spin-doctors.

Most have remained in Washington even when not in power, as lobbyists, campaign consultants, go-to lawyers, financial bundlers, and power brokers.

The other half of the ruling class comprises the corporate executives, Wall Street chiefs, and multi-millionaires who have assisted and enabled these political leaders – and for whom the politicians have provided political favors in return.

America has long had a ruling class but the public was willing to tolerate it during the three decades after World War II, when prosperity was widely shared and when the Soviet Union posed a palpable threat. Then, the ruling class seemed benevolent and wise.

Yet in the last three decades – when almost all the nation’s economic gains have gone to the top while the wages of most people have gone nowhere – the ruling class has seemed to pad its own pockets at the expense of the rest of America.

We’ve witnessed self-dealing on a monumental scale – starting with the junk-bond takeovers of the 1980s, followed by the Savings and Loan crisis, the corporate scandals of the early 2000s (Enron, Adelphia, Global Crossing, Tyco, Worldcom), and culminating in the near meltdown of Wall Street in 2008 and the taxpayer-financed bailout.

Along the way, millions of Americans lost their jobs their savings, and their homes.

Meanwhile, the Supreme Court has opened the floodgates to big money in politics wider than ever. Taxes have been cut on top incomes, tax loopholes widened, government debt has grown, public services have been cut. And not a single Wall Street executive has gone to jail.

The game seems rigged – riddled with abuses of power, crony capitalism, and corporate welfare.

In 1964, Americans agreed by 64% to 29% that government was run for the benefit of all the people. By 2012, the response had reversed, with voters saying by 79% to 19% that government was “run by a few big interests looking after themselves.”

Which has made it harder for ordinary people to get ahead. In 2001 a Gallup poll found 77 percent of Americans satisfied with opportunities to get ahead by working hard and 22 percent dissatisfied. By 2014, only 54 percent were satisfied and 45 percent dissatisfied.

The resulting fury at ruling class has taken two quite different forms.

On the right are the wreckers. The Tea Party, which emerged soon after the Wall Street bailout, has been intent on stopping government in its tracks and overthrowing a ruling class it sees as rotten to the core.

Its Republican protégés in Congress and state legislatures have attacked the Republican establishment. And they’ve wielded the wrecking balls of government shutdowns, threats to default on public debt, gerrymandering, voter suppression through strict ID laws, and outright appeals to racism.

Donald Trump is their human wrecking ball. The more outrageous his rants and putdowns of other politicians, the more popular he becomes among this segment of the public that’s thrilled by a bombastic, racist, billionaire who sticks it to the ruling class.

On the left are the rebuilders. The Occupy movement, which also emerged from the Wall Street bailout, was intent on displacing the ruling class and rebuilding our political-economic system from the ground up.

Occupy didn’t last but it put inequality on map. And the sentiments that fueled Occupy are still boiling.

Bernie Sanders personifies them. The more he advocates a fundamental retooling of our economy and democracy in favor of average working people, the more popular he becomes among those who no longer trust the ruling class to bring about necessary change.

Yet despite the growing revolt against the ruling class, it seems likely that the nominees in 2016 will be Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton. After all, the ruling class still controls America.

But the revolt against the ruling class won’t end with the 2016 election, regardless.

Which means the ruling class will have to change the way it rules America. Or it won’t rule too much longer.
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foundednotlost
 
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Reply Mon 3 Aug, 2015 06:12 am
My Apologies if this NYTimes's article has been posted previously.

Support for Bernie Sanders Is Deep but Narrow

As many as 100,000 people attended house parties for Bernie Sanders on Wednesday in an extraordinary and perhaps unprecedented early demonstration of grass-roots support.

Although the tremendous turnout for Mr. Sanders was an impressive indication of the depth of his support among the Democratic Party’s liberal activists, it seems that his base of support is quite narrow.

An analysis of Mr. Sanders’s activist base shows that the turnout for Mr. Sanders was overwhelmingly concentrated in the country’s most liberal communities. There were actually more Sanders attendees in Portland, Ore., than in New Hampshire or Iowa. There was little or no activity in many nonwhite and conservative areas that possess the votes and delegates to decide the nomination.

[Bernie Sanders campaigning in Iowa. He said Thursday: “I’m not a liberal. Never have been. I’m a progressive who mostly focuses on the working and middle class.”
Road to 2016: Class or Ideology? My Conversation With Bernie SandersJULY 11, 2015]


Bernie Sanders with young supporters in Iowa on Saturday. Road to 2016: Why Bernie Sanders’s Momentum Is Not Built to Last. JULY 8, 2015
Twelve congressional districts — all in Southern or nonwhite areas — had no Sanders events. There were no Sanders events in an overwhelmingly Democratic, minority-heavy district in New York City. There were no Sanders events in two heavily Hispanic congressional districts in California. There were no events in several congressional districts in Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas, North Carolina, Tennessee and Florida.

The analysis of the event attendance used data scraped off the Sanders campaign website. With the help of Jeremy Bowers, our colleague in the New York Times Washington bureau, we grabbed the ZIP code, county and state of Sanders events, including the number of people who RSVP’d online to each event. More than 100,000 people were registered to attend.

The pattern of Mr. Sanders’s support resembles Mr. Obama’s support from 2008, but with nearly no support from the black voters who decided that election in Mr. Obama’s favor.

Mr. Sanders’s challenge among nonwhite and conservative voters has been widely reported. But the geographic concentration of Mr. Sanders’s activist base is striking even in the context of those expectations. While more than a thousand people showed up to Sanders events in Seattle, San Francisco and Portland, Ore., there were equally populated Southern and nonwhite areas where there were no Sanders events at all. His top 15 congressional districts, each with at least 750 registered attendees, were all in Oregon, Washington, California — or Vermont. Next came Boulder, Colo.

The South was Mr. Sanders’s weakest region: Mississippi, Georgia, Louisiana and South Carolina all sat at the bottom of the list. The turnout for Mr. Sanders — measured by comparing the number of RSVPs with the number of Obama voters — was 12 times as great in Oregon as in Mississippi. There were more attendees in Washington than in the far larger state of Texas.

Blacks Are Not Flocking to Sanders Events
Almost all of Sanders’s strongest districts were in overwhelmingly white areas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/31/upshot/support-for-bernie-sanders-is-deep-but-narrow.html?mabReward=CTM&module=WelcomeBackModal&contentCollection=Politics&region=FixedCenter&action=click&src=recg&pgtype=article&abt=0002&abg=0
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2015 05:42 am
https://youtu.be/5tu32CCA_Ig

How your government is now working. Corruption rules the day - legally. Bernie Sanders is the ONLY one who will call it what it is and work to end it. You are living in an oligarchy. Stats in this video.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2015 07:19 am
And oligarchy is a fancy word for dictatorship.
foundednotlost
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2015 12:39 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
And oligarchy is a fancy word for dictatorship.


America has not exactly lived up to its true potential....there's so very much that is ethically wrong with the US political dark side intruding, but do you really believe we are living under a dictatorship, Edgar? Despite America's myriad faults, I cannot fathom another country I would rather live. If we were living under a dictatorship, someone like Bernie Sanders would not be permitted to campaign on his social agenda and the current president, Obama, would not be president. Our country is in the process of growth. There will be many setbacks, and far more steps forward before we get it right.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2015 12:43 pm
@foundednotlost,
We are on the slippery slope. And it won't take long for them to complete the takeover, now that bribery drives our government. Only voting in the right people can make a difference.
snood
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2015 01:11 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

We are on the slippery slope. And it won't take long for them to complete the takeover, now that bribery drives our government. Only voting in the right people can make a difference.

The country is in better shape than it was at the beginning of Obama's tenure, I think. The end might not be quite as imminent as all that.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2015 01:24 pm
@snood,
snood wrote:

edgarblythe wrote:

We are on the slippery slope. And it won't take long for them to complete the takeover, now that bribery drives our government. Only voting in the right people can make a difference.

The country is in better shape than it was at the beginning of Obama's tenure, I think. The end might not be quite as imminent as all that.


If we are not in better shape than directly after the second worst economic slump in 100 years then we are in trouble. And we are..... none of the major problems have been fixed, the government is increasingly in disrepute, and the people are increasingly hopeless.
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foundednotlost
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2015 01:49 pm
@edgarblythe,
Quote:

We are on the slippery slope. And it won't take long for them to complete the takeover, now that bribery drives our government. Only voting in the right people can make a difference.


I understand you, far better than you realize; however, conditions are not quite as precarious just yet. The American people collectively will overcome any bribes, in time, by making their voices heard LOUD AND CLEAR!

Look at how the Republicans are jittery with respect to the Latino vote, even though their base is anti-immigrant plan to citizenship. The Republican Party has put up barriers in front of Obama since he became president; if they they thought he was inadequate as president why did they not do everything in their power to help him succeed, to be a success instead of trying to tear him down? Look at how the Confederate Flag was pressured to be removed in South Carolina. Sometimes the price to be paid is excessively steep before things are made right.

I predict the Republican Party will be their own worse enemy; heck, what am I saying...they already are! Remember shutting down the government to try and force Obama to repeal his own legacy, the ObamaCare bill which was and still is the law of the land? There is not one Republican candidate "mainstream" America would consider worthy of being president of the US, and this is one of the reasons so many Americans are flocking to Sanders with his socialist agenda.

It is the Republican Party buttressing Donald Trump, helping him sustain his unnatural growing lead, and this gives us a clear picture as to the depth of hatred these people have for ordinary law-abiding Americans. The GOP were just defeated in their eagerness to defund Family Planning. They have tried to repeal Obamacare, and were unsuccessful. From all reports it looks like Obama will have enough Democrats to avoid a veto override re the Iranian nuclear deal.

When a few members of the Republican Party (including John McCain) wrote a letter to the Ayatollah that the ongoing delicate negotiations regarding Iran's nuclear plan with our president would be repealed once a new president replaced Obama, they made a treasonous act against the United States of America.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 4 Aug, 2015 02:12 pm
Your glass is more half full than mine. I hope your vision is more on target than mine.
 

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