Is 'fresh fruit' unaccountable?

@contrex,

contrex wrote:

FBM wrote:
By Thor, I had me a quick gander around teh interweebs and found it expressed both ways in the US. Regional variations, I guess.

I have noticed that Americans often say "fruits" in situations where British and British Commonwealth speakers would say "fruit".

Maybe we're more pucker-butt about parallelism. Not sure.

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@contrex,

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An apple is a fruit.

Yes, as I've already said, in everyday usage it is. But not in a technical sense.

A german shepard is called a "dog," but really it is merely an "exemplar" of a generic class of animals which we call (in laymen's term) the "dog class."

If a german shepard WAS a dog, in the sense that that's what "dog' means, then a collie would NOT be a dog. It's not a german shepard, therefore not a dog, in that event.

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Layman, to put it politely, you are being incoherent. Also, what is a "shepard"?

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@contrex,

Some things, I know, are simply incomprehensible. At least to those with no capacity to comprehend, anyway.

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@layman,

layman wrote:

Some things, I know, are simply incomprehensible. At least to those with no capacity to comprehend, anyway.

Indeed, as in the present situation where the problem is your failure to observe the simple principle "whereof I do not know, thereof I should not speak."

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@contrex,

Confusing a part (or some property thereof) with the whole is commonly called the fallacy of division, which has been defined as: Inferring that something is true of one or more of the parts from the fact that it is true of the whole. For example, if the Giants are doing poorly this year, it would be fallacious to conclude that every member on the team is doing poorly."

Another example: If the whole class that a member of that class is X , then that member is also X.

X here is dog, or fruit, get it?

I'm pretty sure you don't, but just thought I'd ask.

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@contrex,

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what is a "shepard"?

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Top Definition: Sheppard: one who herds or "sheeps" others. A Sheppard is a leader and will tend to flocks of various sizes

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sheppard

Personally, I don't spell it with two p's. Nor do I spell it as "shepherd."

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Shepard reminds me of Sheridan and othersh who cut their teeth in the same biz.

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@contrex,

Upon seeing 'nutrient', what came into my mind was like,
'protein, calcium, fat' or things like that.
And I assumed they are not countable.

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@SMickey,

SMickey wrote:

Upon seeing 'nutrient', what came into my mind was like,
'protein, calcium, fat' or things like that.
And I assumed they are not countable.

But we can talk of nutrients, proteins and fats as countables.

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@contrex,

Yes, they're collective nouns for different types of nutrients, proteins and fats, therefore they can be either countable or uncountable. For example, we usually use the word 'fish' as uncountable, but a marine biologist can say 'fishes' to refer to a plural number of varieties/species of fish that populate a certain body of water.

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