What good does religion offer the world today?

I've put in the time and experience that would qualify as being bothered to find out if the god exists.

Even if I had found that such a being exists, there is no reason for me to love it more than I would love a wife and children.

Nor would I love or worship a being that would command me to put it first among all things. Such a command could only come from an ego, and only an ego would accept such a mandate.

If the alleged god asked you to kill your son in order for you to prove that you are putting it first, you wouldn't do it. So regardless of what you say, your love for such a being does not come first. And before you claim that the god would never ask such a thing of you, I would remind you that there is a precedent for such behavior on the part of the alleged god.

Well don't leave us hanging, what's your verdict?

I'm guessing your wife like most, insists that you love her above all other women. If so, you do take that command from her and in doing so, you place her above God.

If you are going to rely on that precedent then there is the proof that you are wrong about at least some men.

The man in that precedent was willing. I can't say for myself because I haven't been asked that.

So, what is causing you to stumble when it comes to that?

Who said that I did?

Your 'gotcha' games are boring.

I said I haven't been asked that because I couldn't. I don't have a son.

Leadfoot Quote:
"I said I haven't been asked that because I couldn't. I don't have a son."


No, you said: "The man in that precedent was willing. I can't say for myself because I haven't been asked that."

You did not say that you don't have a son. Please don't interpret this as me saying gotcha.

Now you are quibbling about your interpretation of what I said.

But the issue at hand was whether I was willing to give up something equal or more in order to maintain the priority of God in my life. I made it clear that I did.