LGBT Equality, Civil Rights and Social Concerns

John Legend Boycotts Event to Protest Sultan of Brunei
http://www.advocate.com/politics/media/2015/02/05/john-legend-boycotts-event-protest-sultan-brunei

Obama Budget Extends Social Security Benefits To All Married Same-Sex Couples
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/02/obama-budget_n_6598406.html?ncid=fcbklnkushpmg00000013

"President Obama's leadership in helping bring the freedom to marry to all Americans will be a shining part of this president's legacy."

You may want to specify which church. After all, consider that you don't want to be judged as a monolith. Maybe religious people and religions in general don't want to be, either.

Just sayin'.

I understand your gripe here Jespah, and, I could start cherry picking churches too but, the founding fathers did not define which church when they separated them from the state did they?

Neither will I...

ALL churches need to take a back seat to science, reason and fundamental human rights...

Hope that answers your question as succinctly as possible.

A state built upon the religion of a church (any and all churches) is tyranny not liberty. rr

Please have your churches spayed, neutered and sterilized from government if possible...

To continue... can you please tell me a church that does not have some underlying animosity towards LGBT people or women and does not want to push/subject their "faith" upon others?

Sure some tolerate woman's rights and that of LGBT people. Some even have allowed blacks to attend services. (not to mention any names)

But they still adhere to their racist, polygamous and male chauvinist "holy books" and hold to the claim they are "the word of God". That every word is given by the breath of God and is blameless and pure.

This is the danger in allowing any fervent faith to rule over "science" and the ideals of reason, rationality, personal liberty and innate human equality. "No" religion that uses faith as its cornerstone can compare to the ideals of our commonwealth as a free thinking nation.

Either present your all powerful God "now" bodily before all the eyes of the world to evidentially see or keep your own personal book of miracles and fables to yourself...

Alabama's constitutional crisis over same-sex marriage, explained
http://www.vox.com/2015/2/9/8005931/gay-marriage-roy-moore

I take this as a rant thread, which is surely useful, but not interesting to me.

I agree with most of your views already.

I'm more interested in people's lives, and the difficulties.

Please tell me why anyone with brains would zero this post.

Thanks Ossobuco! lol

As I say,
"Feed the trolls and they will come."

I would like to clarify this comment, I am NOT implying that Jespah is an internet troll.

Jespah has added much insight to many of my threads over the years and the surely welcomed question on "which church" I was referring to in my title monologue I tried to answer at the best of my ability...

I hope Jespah, you will say around and contribute more to this discussion

I was referring only to the down voters of this thread.

I am sure there are some nice religious people out there, as for churches... I have yet to find one that I can associate myself with that does not ALSO tie itself to a "holy book" that I abhor...

A book with hate does not a holy book make... rr

I love irony.

I don't really find young people, gay or straight, being sexually victimized, threatened and profited from by the, err church, ironic.

Sick, disgusting and depraved, yea, ironic? No...

Max has just gone through a messy divorce and hates all women as a result. Most of his posts are him bleating about how hard it is being a man. Don't waste your time with such a pathetic creature.

And don't believe a word he says. He lies constantly, and makes up "facts and figures."

Heart warming video of a wonderful ‪#‎family‬. Watch Milla's story.
‪#‎transgender‬ www.gayparentmag.com
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=407602542742290

How is this not an example of bigotry?

Yes, I agree, church grown homophobia is a form of bigotry... (cynical)

Of course we agree, anti-Catholicism isn't bigotry at all... (sarcasm)