Din1
 
Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 11:21 am
My wife is not invited to the party.

What is the right sentence for her?
May be both sentences are correct.

Why I was not invited to the party?
Why was not I invited to the party?

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chai2
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 12:25 pm
@Din1,
It should be

Why was I not invited to the party?
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 12:28 pm
@chai2,
Because you always get sozzled and try to smoochy dance with the vicar.
chai2
 
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Reply Mon 8 Dec, 2014 04:47 pm
@Lordyaswas,
Vicars are quite mysterious and exotic to americans.

It would be coup to get one to come to your party.
Din1
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 12:36 am
@chai2,
Thank you.
I was not invited to the party.

Wasn't I invited to the party? [is this correct?]
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 12:58 am
@Din1,
"Wasn't I invited to the party?"

This implies that you are not sure whether you have been invited or not, and you are asking for clarification.

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Why wasn't I invited to the party?

This confirms that you know you haven't been invited, and you are wanting to know the reason why.


The 'wasn't' element may (I only suspect) look and sound strange to some, maybe all, Americans, as I have noticed that it is rare to see the shortened form in their posts here.
Wasn't is usually was not.
Can't is cannot.
Isn't - is not. Etc. Etc.

Some do, but most never seem to abbreviate such terms. Maybe it's a Brit/Aussie thing.
roger
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 01:43 am
@Lordyaswas,
If you're curious, it's a matter of emphasis for me. 'Cannot' is more emphatic than 'can't', in my perception. 'Can not' is even stronger.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 01:50 am
@roger,
I agree, as I rarely abbreviate when trying to get across a serious point.

But I notice it most of the time, in speech and writing, and hadn't paid much attention to it until it was, believe it or not, pointed out on Star Trek that Data never abbreviates anything.
For some reason it sort of raised the profile of the whole thing for me, and I notice it everywhere now.
Does it differ from State to State? Do Bostonians lean towards abbreviating (if that is the correct term) more than Californians?
What about Canadians? They have a fair portion of Scot running through them so surely they say can't and won't?


I'm now obsessing!


Din1
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 11:22 am
@Lordyaswas,
Chai2 says 'Why was I not invited to the party? ' is the correct one.
I think everybody accepts it.
Lordyaswas
 
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Reply Tue 9 Dec, 2014 01:40 pm
@Din1,
In America, maybe.

The abbreviated version is just as acceptable in the UK and probably other Brit based countries.

Why weren't you there?
Why were you not there?

Why haven't you done your homework?
Why have you not.......etc.

In everyday conversation, most UK people would tend to use the abbreviated version.






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