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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

People like Mike Obunga feed on human misery. He would not be happy in paradise...

No it is worse than that.....he thinks that if we teach the kids to eat crap then they will always like crap.

But it does not work that way. Mom's have been strictly controlling the diets of their kids when young for year, and it rarely works out well. Eventually as the laws stand now they get to be old enough to decide what to eat. And they have no self control because the control was always done for them.

Moderns are so colossally stupid.

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@hawkeye10,

If Mike's motivation isn't pure sadism, what exactly is it?

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

If Mike's motivation isn't pure sadism, what exactly is it?

A faith that better humans can be created by government action, and a willingness to put the plan in motion by any means necessary. Which includes lying.

Come on man, you know these truths.....

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Obama lunch rules demand that over half the salt be removed from the plate.

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-01-26/pdf/2012-1010.pdf

That will make the food good they say.

Ya, right.

And salt is not even a problem for almost everybody, no matter how much you eat. in fact increasingly these low salt diets are killing people...directly....and high salt diets NEVER do that. And what about those people in Arizona in may who have to run track for gym class? Obama and the rest of these assholes are putting their lives at risk....THEIR BODIES NEED SALT TO LIVE!

EDIT: and show me the science that eating a lot of salt as a kid makes my chances of high blood pressure as an adult worse. AND btw the pill to fix that cost a couple of cents a day, I will trade having good food for giving the government the cost of my blood pressure med

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@hawkeye10,

The new limit on sodium for elementary kids is 640MG

After the milk they have 533 MG to play with.

Ya, that will work.

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@hawkeye10,

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said in The Gulag Archipelago that not putting any salt in the food was a Soviet punishment of significance.

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@hawkeye10,

interesting...

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@gungasnake,

One McD's cheeseburger has 680MG sodium, just to give you an idea of what these new standards mean. One 12 inch mission whole wheat tortilla has 750, and trust me it needs it to give it enough flavor to get it down, and no filling.

As bad as the new food looks, and as skimpy as it is, the flavor is even worse. I want to teach kids to appreciate good food, I dont want kids to know that we now treat their lunches as an science experiment that is not supposed to be pleasant.

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@hawkeye10,

You know of course it is illegal for the lunchroom ladies to hand a kid a salt packet, or to allow salt shakers anywhere near the kids.

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Cheese can be 3% salt . Most cooked products have salt . There is a link between salt and hardened arteries and high blood pressure but it is not known if it is a causative link, because other factors such as exercise and life style can not be eliminated . We are the only non-ocean mammal that sweats salt, a sign that we tried to return to the oceans like many mammals have done succesfully but didnt quite complete the job . Sweating salt for an animal (excluding sea birds that have a tear gland like us) is a death sentence . We need to replace salt far more than some think .

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@Ionus,

Given that the last year saw a huge study that high salt is almost never a problem, and an influential medical advisory board a few months ago pleaded for an ending of the law salt push because too many people are dying already and the program is just starting, there is a push to get the government to at least push back the low salt demands timeline, if not cancel it all together.

I suspect that they will be successful.

Schools are massively failing on the low fat demands, and that too might be a problem. The food service industry is trying to come up with new recipes for institutional food that meets the standards and that tastes good enough that we might be able to get kids to eat it, but the effort is not going well. If you remove fat and salt you need to do something, and that something is usually and a lot of stabilizers and chemical additives, which are also on the healthy food nazi's radar. Washington assumed that they could make the law, give the industry as much as a decade to make it work, and that some way or another they would figure it out. 5 years in that bet is going poorly.

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@hawkeye10,

Fat and oils, especially those found in sea critters, are essential for our health . They do not contribute to weight gain but are used in organ building and repair . Growing up on a no-fat diet would be dangerous to the brain .

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@hawkeye10,

correction, 8 years in

http://www.foodnavigator-usa.com/Suppliers2/Major-firms-pledge-reformulation-new-products-for-healthier-schools

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One bright piece of news in this generally ugly picture is that at least some of Mike Obunga's victims will have turned 18 and vote in the 2016 election. I seriously doubt there's any danger of them voting for demoKKKrats.....

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@Ionus,

Ionus wrote:

Fat and oils, especially those found in sea critters, are essential for our health . They do not contribute to weight gain but are used in organ building and repair . Growing up on a no-fat diet would be dangerous to the brain .

Reminds me of the pressure to give kids only low fat or no fat milk, and a few years latter kids were turning up not healthy. I think they changed it to dont start till about age 5. Developing bodies need fat for a lot of reasons, one of which is that some important nutrients only travel in fat, and growing bodies need a lot of nutrients. 30% cal from fat seems reasonable but then a HS lunch as to max at 850 cal and the moderately active HS boy needs 2600 a day I got a feeling that lunch is going to leave kids hungry in a hour or so.

The limit is 30% cal by fat, which works out to the meal can be about 16% fat. This should be doable, but the science is not there on this question I think. The normal knock on fat is that they pack a lot of calories, but these meals already have calorie limits so that is meaningless. We were told for 30 years that we should limit fat because we need to limit the amount of cholesterol that we eat, which was never backed by science and science has proven that eating cholesterol does not effect our blood cholesterol at all.

We see this all the time where those who get off on telling us what we should eat, sometimes going to great lengths to try to limit our choices lie to us about their case. Over and over again,

Leave the kids the **** alone. There will be plenty of time for them to be nutrition lab rats when they are adults, when they have the ability to consent to the experiments.

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@hawkeye10,

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In summary, the authors of the report wrote: “The overall low consumption of low-fat milk suggests the majority of children and adolescents do not adhere to recommendations by Dietary Guidelines for Americans, 2010 and the American Academy of Pediatrics for all children aged 2 years and over to drink low-fat milk. Recently, First Lady Michelle Obama’s ‘Lets Move!’ campaign and ‘The Surgeon Generals Vision for a Healthy and Fit Nation 2010′ have recommended promoting water and low-fat milk and reducing sugar-sweetened beverages as components of comprehensive obesity prevention strategies.”

http://news.health.com/2011/09/15/not-enough-kids-drink-low-fat-milk-u-s-study-finds/

OMG! GET THE FAT OUT OF OUR KIDS MILK LIKE THE MINDERS SAY! NOW!

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A study by Swedish experts found that, over a 12-year period, middle-aged men who used whole milk, cream, and butter had a lower risk of becoming obese than did peers who avoided fattier dairy products.

Meanwhile, a European review of 16 studies found most of them showed a lower risk of obesity among people consuming dairy products high in fat. What's more, a study last year pointed to more weight gain in kids who drank low-fat milk.

"We continue to see more and more data coming out (suggesting) consumption of whole-milk dairy products is associated with reduced body fat," a National Dairy Council executive tells NPR.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/02/16/newser-whole-milk-research-skinny-people/5531321/

hold on now......

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@hawkeye10,

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They drew their conclusions after asking the parents of almost 11,000 two-year-olds what type of milk they gave them: skimmed, one per cent fat, two per cent fat, or full-fat. They then followed up the children two years later.
All the children were participants of the Early Childhood Longitudinal Study, which tracks the long term health of a representative sample of US children born in 2001.

Writing in the journal Archives of Disease in Childhood, the authors noted: “One per cent / skimmed milk does not appear to restrain body weight gain between two and four years of age.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/news/9938102/Skimmed-milk-makes-kids-fat.html
W.T.F.

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Skimming fat off milk does not affect its calcium content. According to the Department of Health, children aged one to three need around 350mg of calcium a day, which is provided by just over half a pint of milk

Skimming milk does however remove the nutrients that travel by fat, and it changes how our bodies deal with the enormous sugar load of milk.

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