Ebola in The USA

@ossobuco,

Also, this is a useful article - I learned a lot.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/27/ebola-wars

@bobsal u1553115,

Aaack, on page 32, it was Bobsal's link, not Finn's, no wonder I liked it:
I take some wait as reasonable medically re people who wore special outfits (ppe's, and they vary) to treat end stage patients. Not clear that 21 days is the decisive number, might be less, but on the other hand, what is one more week to be sure. People who didn't wear such outfits with associated protocols, and were exposed, w/in 21 days, for sure. People who went to some wedding far away, give us a break, that is fear in action.

http://www.vox.com/2014/10/21/7020519/Ebola-facts-maps-charts-graphics

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@ossobuco,

That is a great link, Osso. It seems to contradict your earlier points.

http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/2339450/causes-of-death-ebola-labels.0.png

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@maxdancona,

What are you lecturing me on, that other causes cause more stuff?

I'm not a fear monger. I do care about contamination in some circumstances, and understand watching to avoid that. I also get the nature of the transmission of the ebola virus, which is fortunately on the low side, but still doable at endstaging. I presume you haven't read my link on the scenarios in research labs now and in Sierra Leone.

I'm the one who didn't like a school being shut down since a school employee was in the plane, not at the same time but later, than an eventual ebola patient was in with no symptoms. I still consider that silly but see why an airlines would, at least for advertising/financial reasons, do a scrub out that doesn't make sense but the school followup was hard to believe.

Talk about grandstanding, you lecturing me.

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@ossobuco,

New Yorker is a good magazine. Great articles.

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@rosborne979,

My hope exactly. I get the feeling they messed with the wrong guy. He seems powerful and angry.

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@woiyo,

Quote:

You would. Do you believe there is no Ebola issue in Africa?

of course not on the scale they want us to think!

It is a hype!!! people just believe everything that is in the media
That is stupid!

Think Hitler here: how bigger te lie, how simpler the lie............etc

Just ask questions
Who benefits?
where was it made?
How do you even know that people have ebola?
How are the tests?
May something else be going on?
How come there where biological labs where ebola 'break out'?
And so on and so forth!

Gee, it is not that people can't think anymore, it is they even don't try!

Totally dependent on a media that deceives us all on a daily basis!

Listening to that is a form of insanity!

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http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/get-attachment-1293-587x403.jpg

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Quote:

“Ebola is a Big Lie” --- “Nana Kwame” from Ghana speaks out – and a new False Flag of horror dimensions in the making

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"Ebola is a big lie" - according to a man called “Nana Kwame” – most likely a pseudonym – living in Ghana, Ebola was brought to West Africa, to 4 countries for 4 specific reasons by - no one less than The Red Cross. This article is rocketing the internet for the last couple of days, for example in “Spirit Science and Metaphysics” http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics.com/ebo-lie-man-living-in-ghana-confirms-ebola-is-a-hoax/ - and was translated into Spanish and published by the Peruvian newspaper LaPrimera, a paper that regularly seeks to dissect the truth from the flood of lies emitted by the Peruvian MSM.

The very credible story was already at least partially corroborated by other web articles including the one by Timothy Alexandre Guzman, GR http://www.globalresearch.ca/a-liberian-scientist-claims-the-u-s-is-responsible-for-the-ebola-outbreak-in-west-africa/5408459 - recounting the story by Dr. Cyril Broderick, a Liberian University Professor. According to Dr. Broderick, the US Department of Defense (DoD) has contracted a Canadian pharmaceutical company, Tekmira, to conduct Ebola research on humans in Guinea and Sierra Leone, just shortly before the outbreak in Guinea and Sierra Leone. The West Africa epidemic was declared in March 2014. In addition, Broderick states “It is most disturbing that the U. S. Government has been operating a viral hemorrhagic fever bioterrorism research laboratory in Sierra Leone”. He asks the obvious – “Are there others?”

Just by coincidence, a few days ago, Canada announced that it will deliver to the World Health Organization (WHO) 800 units of Ebola vaccines. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/18/us-health-ebola-canada-idUSKCN0I70H820141018 . WHO will consult with the countries most affected on how to use the vaccine. Reuters says human trials will be carried out by Walter Reed Army Institute of Research in the United States.

Why Ebola vaccines now, donated by Canada, when the Ebola virus is ‘owned’ by the US through CDC, since November 2007, Accession No. 200706291, Patent No. CA 2741523 A1, publication date April 2010

http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/ebola-is-big-lie.html

OF COURSE IS EBOLA A LIE, IT IS ALL THE GOVERNMENTS AROUND THE WORLD DO: THEY LIE 24/7 !!!

IT IS THEIR DEFAULT POSITION!!!

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Meantime, I read in the news this morning about California's take on quarantine, and agree with it; it's risk related: for California counties to make their own decisions on a case by case basis regarding the actual level of exposure of the arriving person(s). I can see that being tricky too, but presently makes more sense to me.

Busy day, I didn't save a link, but I'm sure that is well out there now on google.

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@bobsal u1553115,

Honey, I'm a fan. Have been reading it since I was ten, off and on, relative to having the bucks to subscribe at any given time. I was ten a long time ago, and some of the cartoons befuddled me, not to mention the articles, but I remember it. Maybe when I was ten I liked the ads (pictures!!) and the drawings.

This doesn't mean I have agreed all this time with all the stuff printed in all those hundreds of weeks of magazines. In many ways, though, I've learned a lot via reading both the news and fiction there.

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@ossobuco,

Nothing beats Viz.

http://oldrope.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/markengelssmaller.jpg

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@izzythepush,

Answering before I've had time to peruse Viz, which I will. Off hand, different stuff is close to our hearts, naturally.

I'm interested in the Maine governor's back down, re if Nurse Hickox takes a blood test. Interested re what JPB says, if she knows, re the virus showing up measurably in a blood test at a given time since exposure.

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Most of this stuff is not all that important...because whether we have a serious outbreak of Ebola or not...the infrastructure for a serious outbreak of some easily infectious disease has to be put into place.

It IS NOT HERE NOW.

Most small hospitals (which comprise the majority of hospitals in our country) are simply not equipped to handle a serious epidemic of anything...let alone something like Ebola. Many of the larger hospitals are minimally equipped. The entire of the healthcare system can easily be overloaded by any kind of epidemic.

We should be using this happenstance to get ourselves into gear for what almost certainly will come in some form at some point.

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@Frank Apisa,

Frank Apisa wrote:

Actually...the tent was inside the hospital...not a tent out in the backyard. The temperature was the ambient temperature of the rest of the hospital.

I've been in quarantine, too, (pocks-related), not in a hospital but a navy medical centre. It was more comfortable than the tent above ... 45 years ago.

Actually, I was the only one on the ward [just two quarantine rooms, ten normal ones] who did ["illegally"] the shopping in the canteen, because I didn't show any symptoms after a couple of days. [It was a quite similar situation: my hometown was in a restricted infection area, I wasn't vaccinated ... and had to wait until my 21th birthday for the immunization ...

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@Walter Hinteler,

I wonder if, in order to be communicable and transmissible, an affected patient must be exuding a blue liquid from their ers. Itd be easy to argue against forced quarantine f that were the case no?

Why isn't personal responsibility a measure for anything? The medical pwrsonal aren't terrorists, they used good medical practices to self monitor .
The 4th Amendment counts only when they say it does

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@farmerman,

One of the best posts I've read. The last paragraph is so true.

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I read this morning that she hadn't been in treatment wards with patients with symptoms, so assuming that's true, that changes my viewpoint re quarantine need for her.

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@ossobuco,

Well, what happens if the Judge is wrong and she does come down with symptoms? Is it worth the risk? Is she being selfish?

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