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Universe not expanding

 
 
Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2014 06:44 am
http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20130610-903915.html
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2014 06:58 am
@gungasnake,

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newstep
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2014 12:13 pm
@gungasnake,
I thought it contracts and expands.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jul, 2014 11:06 pm
@newstep,
The idea of an expanding universe was based on a particular interpretation of cosmic redshift, which has been shown to have been wrong.
carloslebaron
 
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Reply Sat 26 Jul, 2014 08:45 am
OK, lets review the consequences.

Having that the universe is not expanding, then, Einstein's ideas based on imaginations are proved false one more time. The observation of stars/galaxies traveling faster than light was "justified" with the idea that the universe was expanding. Without this "justification" the statement of Einstein is proved false.

The "anti-gravity" phenomenon in the universe is also disregarded.

The biblical statement that god expanded the heavens with his hand appears not to be affected because the verb is in preterit and it doesn't mean that god still is expanding the universe but that such was a past event.

Reading the article from the link given in the first posting, the organization that made the experiment gave "honor" to Einstein's ideas by keeping the axioms made by this famous individual. Reality is that after his "photo-electric" this dude Einstein showed his true mentality of a guy who suffered retardation, autism and/or Attention Deficit Disorder (Recent studies show that he suffered on or more of these three conditions).

His new ideas after the photo-electric became not only imaginations but fantasies, like saying that time is flexible to the point of being affected by the motion of objects or the gravity of bodies. Even when "numbers in a piece of paper" can fit the observation, a true theory of science -according to the scientific method- must show the mechanism that is acting in the phenomenon. The hypothesis of relativity never presented any mechanism of how time is affected, by consequence, the lunatic ideas of Einstein are not even science.

(By the way, clocks themselves are affected by changes in the environment that surrounds them, and instead of "time dilatation" the affected data given of these devices is caused by malfunction when exposed to an environment different to the one where the clocks were calibrated)

There is no reason of trying to "survive" as a valid organization working on science with this action of kissing the butts of relativists -who control the media in science to protect their fantasy of relativity-. The experiment itself proves Einstein as a complete idiot, his theories are false because time doesn't exist as a physical entity but is merely a measurement as it is weight, volume, longitude, etc.

The experiment is great and won't be rare that relativists will try to diminish it one of these days, as soon as people starts to realize that Einstein was not a genius but a retarded dude with zero knowledge about reality but with lots and lots of imagination.
Herald
 
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Reply Tue 18 Aug, 2015 10:26 pm
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:
The idea of an expanding universe was based on a particular interpretation of cosmic redshift, which has been shown to have been wrong.
     Yes, besides the 'expansion' of the Universe, the red shift may have a lot of other plausible explanations - like for example blue shift in (shrinking of) the particles with the time, fading away of the photon with the time - nobody could guarantee that the photon will not lose part of its energy after 'hanging up in the space' for 14.28 BN years ... especially when passing over a distance of 14.28 light years (in non-ideal vacuum and non-zero gravity).
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Hillrowie
 
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Reply Thu 3 Nov, 2016 11:53 pm
@carloslebaron,
Don't knock Einstein, most of his ideas worked out great. He stated many times that he was not happy with his cosmological constant or the red shift/expanding universe theories as well. Knock the people who took his IDEAS as gospel. And how is atomic clock affected by a change of environment?
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Fri 4 Nov, 2016 04:12 am
@gungasnake,
gungasnake wrote:

The idea of an expanding universe was based on a particular interpretation of cosmic redshift, which has been shown to have been wrong.

No it hasn't. It's been speculated to be wrong, not shown to be wrong. There's a big difference between speculated and shown.
Olli S
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2017 01:28 pm
@rosborne979,
What can be an plausible explanation of the red shift without expansion?
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chai2
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2017 02:08 pm
The universe just tells itself it's not expanding, and its pants are getting tighter because someone washed them in hot water.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jan, 2017 03:46 pm
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What can be an plausible explanation of the red shift without expansion?


What kind of a mean-spirited schlamozzle would down-vote a post for asking a simple question like that??

Halton Arp has shown multiple instances of pairs of cosmic objects which are clearly joined together, one with high and the other with low redshift values; that totally wrecks the idea of interpreting cosmic redshift as velocity or distance.

Cosmic redshift therefore has to be intrinsic, a property of objects themselves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyREfCOr-Y0



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