During The American Revolutionary War, the state religion of Great Britain was Christianity?

@George,

George wrote:

We cannot very well use the second, can we?
We are talking about a country, not "the country".
They are not the same thing.

That is, after you've listed (1) and (2) definitions, you still cannot decide which one you will use?

NO ONE has ever listed two definitions to explain the meaning of a word in a sentence.

Your behavior can only have proven that there is a confusion in your mind about the meaning of a country. So you have to keep prevaricating.

It doesn't matter that you don't know the meaning of a word. But if you've determined/propagandized that this word should have some quality or not have some quality, it matters! Because such behavior points to the fact that either you've made a mistake or you are not sincere.

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@oristarA,

I choose definition one.
Do you agree?

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@George,

Okay! Now you've confirmed Webster's definition one: an area of land that is controlled by its own government.

Let's quote the same definition from Cambridge and Oxford dictionaries, so that our readers here will have a clearer impression:

Cambridge: an area of land that has its own government, army, etc. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british/country

Oxford: A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/country

So according to Webster and Cambridge, a country must have an area of land and at the same time must have its own government, army, etcetera (including but not limited to the governed - its people). Can an area of land without its own government, army, the governed be called a country? No, it can't. Without them, it is just an area of land basically left in its natural condition. And a government and its army and the governed must be living-things, and living things must have spiritual force because we've all agreed the definition - "Spiritual force, or force of spirit, is the vital principle that is animating in living things". That is, a government and its army and the governed must have spiritual force.

Now, let us make it simple:

A country must have a government and its army and the governed, and a government and its army and the governed must have spiritual force.

In other words: A country must have spiritual force.

Is it crystal clear at this stage of understanding?

In fact, if we have adopted Oxford's definition about country - "A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory" - at the very beginning, we should have avoided trekking this tortuous road to comprehend. Because no one will question whether a nation has spiritual force or not. It is self-evident that a nation must have its spiritual force.

George wrote:

Countries are not living things.
A country cannot have spiritual force.

"A country cannot have spiritual force"? It is like to say "A country cannot have its own government and army and the governed". It beats Webster, Cambridge and Oxford and we can call it drivel.

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@oristarA,

This might be somewhat on point, tho not exactly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist

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@oristarA,

You have expanded the definition of "country" to include its having an army.
I disagree.
It is not necessary to have an army in order to a country.

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@OmSigDAVID,

David, thank you for offering to help oristarA.
It is very kind of you.

However, if you consider our agreed-upon definiton of spiritual force,
"Spiritual force, or force of spirit, is the vital principle that is animating
in living things", I think you will agree that Zeigeist is not spiritual force
as we have defined it.

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I just realized that you defined "country" on Friday. I had forgotten.

A country, here refers to "a politically organized body of people under a single government".

Shall we use this as our definition?

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@George,

George wrote:

I just realized that you defined "country" on Friday. I had forgotten.

A country, here refers to "a politically organized body of people under a single government".

Shall we use this as our definition?

Obviously the two definitions are overlapping. Both lead to the same conclusion:
A country must have spiritual force.

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@George,

George wrote:

You have expanded the definition of "country" to include its having an army.
I disagree.
It is not necessary to have an army in order to a country.

Cambridge deserves great respect. But who can be sure it is 100% correct?

The best part is: with or without army, the conclusion - "a country must have spiritual force" - remains unchanged.

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@George,

George wrote:

David, thank you for offering to help oristarA.
It is very kind of you.

To be frank, I don't see David has given me anything helpful this time. Wink

If he really wants to help, edit one or two my "big" posts. Let me see how to further improve my English writing.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

This might be somewhat on point, tho not exactly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist

Would you like to explain it with certain example so that we can understand you well, Dave?

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@oristarA,

The German word refers to the spirit of the times,
tho not necessarily to the place; perhaps that is implied;
i.e., the spirit of the times in one place,
as distinct from somewhere else.

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@George,

George wrote:

David, thank you for offering to help oristarA.
It is very kind of you.

However, if you consider our agreed-upon definiton of spiritual force,
"Spiritual force, or force of spirit, is the vital principle that is animating
in living things", I think you will agree that Zeigeist is not spiritual force
as we have defined it.

I agree with the distinction.
Having had out-of-body experiences, I am aware
of spirit, as distinct from the human body,
whereas u mean it in a pervasive, demografic ideological sense.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

. . . Having had out-of-body experiences, I am aware
of spirit, as distinct from the human body,
whereas u mean it in a pervasive, demografic ideological sense.

This is a very helpful remark, David.

No, I do not mean it in a pervasive, demographic, ideologic sense at all.
I take this definition to mean that spiritual force animates living beings.
It is what makes a living being alive. This is perhaps closer to how you
understand spirit.

Perhaps oristarA means it in the pervasive, demographic, ideologic sense.
In that case we must refine our definition.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

The German word refers to the spirit of the times,
tho not necessarily to the place; perhaps that is implied;
i.e., the spirit of the times in one place,
as distinct from somewhere else.

Wiki gets this done much better, Dave.

Please comment on my new writing: How to make it better and how to make it excellent.

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@George,

Yes; some folks who have returned from death of the human body
(i.e., flat lining on EEG, EKG and respiration monitors, for a while)
have commented upon the Oneness of life,
as distinct from the illusion of a diversity of life.

Beyond having said that, I 'm disinclined
to discuss metaphysics in this forum.

David

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@oristarA,

oristarA wrote:

Please comment on my new writing:
How to make it better and how to make it excellent.

Please specify which
new writing.

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

oristarA wrote:
Please comment on my new writing:
How to make it better and how to make it excellent.
Please specify which
new writing.

Just this short one (it cannot be called a writing; it is a post), please:

http://able2know.org/topic/250269-17#post-5754065

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

. . . Beyond having said that, I 'm disinclined
to discuss metaphysics in this forum.

I'm with you there.

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@oristarA,

OK, I 'll take a shot at it after
I go and get a bite to eat.
Then, like General MacArthur, I shall return.

Today is the 69th Anniversary of his acceptance
of the formal surrender of Japan in Tokyo Bay in 1945.

David

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