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During The American Revolutionary War, the state religion of Great Britain was Christianity?

 
 
oristarA
 
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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2014 08:19 pm
@George,
Did you refer to a country of the walking dead?
But a walking dead is no more human.
Can the people of a country be without souls?
Without souls the people are dead already, so there will be no more their country on the Earth.
If a country exists, its people must be alive with their souls, weak or strong. In other words, the people must be with spiritual forces, weak or strong.
George
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2014 07:45 am
@oristarA,
Whether an individual person has a soul or not is often a matter of debate.
In either case, a body of people, organized as a country, has no spiritual force.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2014 11:38 am
@George,
George wrote:

Whether an individual person has a soul or not is often a matter of debate.
In either case, a body of people, organized as a country, has no spiritual force.


Are you telling us that the people of the United States are just a tray of loose sand without spiritual force? I wonder whether the spirit of FDR will whip you soundly from Heaven.

Let you be known that after the Attack on Pearl Harbor, the deep love of American People for their country was activated. They were united by the patriatism under the leadership of FDR and joined the rank of anti-fascists. This deep love for their country is exactly one of the greatest spiritual forces!
oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2014 12:44 pm
@oristarA,
oristarA wrote:
Did you refer to a country of the walking dead?
But a walking dead is no more human.
Can the people of a country be without souls?
Without souls the people are dead already, so there will be no more their country on the Earth.

In World of Warcraft, Lordaeron survives quite well in undead form.
http://wowpedia.org/Lordaeron_%28kingdom%29


(I have no idea what you guys are fighting about. I just thought I'd point out that a country can technically be populated by the walking dead and still be a functioning polity.)


EDIT: Just for the record, my encompassing entire sentences with parentheses is not proper English.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sat 30 Aug, 2014 08:19 pm
United, there is little we cannot do; devided, there is little we can do.
-- JFK

JFK was also a good organizer who knew how to enhance the spiritual force of his country.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2014 05:50 am

By establishing Christianity as the state religion of Great Britain, the King greatly honored the religion. And by assuming the governor of the Church of England (the state religion), the King was confident to have made the religion as the reinforcement of the spiritual force of his country.

Thus, by losing the war (the American Revolution), the King not only brought pain to his country, but also brought humiliation to his state religion - Christianity. The loss of the war weakened both the political life and the religious life of Great Britain.

From this example, we can see how cool-minded and wise was Jefferson to offer the idea of the separation of state and religion:

Quote:
I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.
--- Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802
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George
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2014 06:22 am
@oristarA,
You mistake patriotism for spiritual force.
They are not the same.
George
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2014 06:33 am
Perhaps you should define "spiritual force" so that we can be sure we are
both talking about the same ting.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2014 06:52 am
@George,
George wrote:

You mistake patriotism for spiritual force.
They are not the same.


See the definition of patriotism:
patriotism
/'pætriətizəm/
n.
love of country and willingness to sacrifice for it.

Thereupon, patriotism belongs to spiritual force, no doubt about that.

George wrote:

Perhaps you should define "spiritual force" so that we can be sure we are
both talking about the same ting.


The psychological force that makes one willing to sacrifice for a cause that he thinks holy is one form of spiritual forces.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2014 06:58 am
@George,
George wrote:

Perhaps you should define "spiritual force" so that we can be sure we are
both talking about the same thing.


Now it is your turn to give us your definition on "spiritual force", George.

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George
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2014 06:01 pm
That does not define "spiritual force". That gives an example of one form of
spiritual force.
George
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2014 06:12 pm
@George,
My definition of spiritual force is strength or power rooted in religion or
religious belief. This is distinct from physical, political, military or
economic force.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2014 10:27 pm
@George,
George wrote:

That does not define "spiritual force". That gives an example of one form of
spiritual force.


I just made it more convenient for your understanding. If you think you have no difficulty to grasp abstract concepts, let's move along:

Spiritual force, or force of spirit, is the vital principle that is animating in living things.
oristarA
 
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Reply Sun 31 Aug, 2014 10:28 pm
@George,
George wrote:

That does not define "spiritual force". That gives an example of one form of
spiritual force.


George wrote:

My definition of spiritual force is strength or power rooted in religion or
religious belief. This is distinct from physical, political, military or
economic force.


Can't you see the inconsistency in these two replies of yours? You blamed me for only giving an example of the definition, yet you are so ready to keep yourself confined to the religious sense of it.
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oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2014 03:04 am
Since spirit is the vital principle of living things, without spirit you're dead; without religious feelings, you're okay anyways.

So, to confine force of spirit, or spiritual force to religious sense is ridiculous.

Scientists hold a conviction, which is similar to religious feeling, of the rationality and intelligibility of the world that lies behind all scientific work of a higher order. This conviction is the strongest spiritual force for a scientist in the real sense of it.
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George
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2014 06:46 am
@oristarA,
"Spiritual force, or force of spirit, is the vital principle that is animating in
living things."

Thank you. I accept your definition.

Countries are not living things.
A country cannot have spiritual force.
oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2014 07:12 am
@George,
Give us the definition of the word "country" in your argument, George. So that we will see where your mind is stuck in.
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George
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2014 07:28 am
I am using Merriam Webster,s definition.
- an area of land that is controlled by its own government
- the country : the people who live in a country
oristarA
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2014 08:35 am
@George,
George wrote:

I am using Merriam Webster,s definition.
- an area of land that is controlled by its own government (1)
- the country : the people who live in a country (2)


MW is cool. A right choice.
Now tell us which definition you've chosen? (1) or (2)? (You cannot have used the two definitions at the same time, can you?)
George
 
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Reply Mon 1 Sep, 2014 08:45 am
@oristarA,
We cannot very well use the second, can we?
We are talking about a country, not "the country".
They are not the same thing.
 

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