Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 11:41 am
I am 16 years of age, I left school half way through last year, though I completed my full year 10 certificate at TAFE instead. I want a career in science, and would like to go to university, as I would like to become an astronomer. I know to get into science based classes at UNI you have to pick science and maths as electives in year 11 and 12. But I was wondering if there is a way to still get into this career path without going back to school and completing year 11 and 12. Would I be able to get into UNI by doing these two certificates at TAFE? Or do I need to go back to school and complete it with those chosen electives?
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:13 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
Why would I lose my creativity, logical thinking and freedom? Please tell me that?
RhiJaneJoyce
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:15 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
And also what would make me lose those things?
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:22 pm
@RhiJaneJoyce,
Quehoniaomath is a nutcase who thinks that Newton's laws of motion aren't true, and thinks that we have the value of Pi wrong. Pay no attention to him.
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:28 pm
@RhiJaneJoyce,
I am in the US (I just googled TAFE and I am guessing you are from Australia). So I can't answer your specific question as the education system varies from country to country.

In the US, you definitely would want to go back and finish grades 11 and 12. First of all, these years will help you get into a better University program. Second of all, more exposure to math and science will help you be successful when you start studying college math and science (which is substantially more complex).

In any University science program they will expect that when you enter you are ready for Calculus and have been exposed to basic Physics, Chemistry and the scientific method.


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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:33 pm
@maxdancona,
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Quehoniaomath is a nutcase who thinks that Newton's laws of motion aren't true, and thinks that we have the value of Pi wrong. Pay no attention to him.


Oh boy, as expected.
Well, the ONLY thing I will say now to him, check if it is true or not!
RhiJaneJoyce
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:33 pm
@maxdancona,
Yes TAFE is an institution for learning in Australia.
I was trying to find ways around having to finish my year 11 and 12 at school due to school is not for me.
Thank you for answering my question.
RhiJaneJoyce
 
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:38 pm
@Quehoniaomath,
If you were referring to ME as 'him' I am a female, thank you very much.
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:41 pm
@RhiJaneJoyce,
Why do you say that school is not for you?

For a career in science, you will be in school for many more years. Real science is done by people with at least a Master's degree (i.e. 6 years of university in the US) and the most interesting science is done by people with PhDs and post grad work.

Is there something about secondary school?

There is a lot of really interesting work being done in astronomy right now.
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:42 pm
@RhiJaneJoyce,
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Why would I lose my creativity, logical thinking and freedom? Please tell me that?


You will be fed lies and you will lose your creativity because that is the way the system is set up.
It is done in so many ways and there is abundant proof of it!
Because you are soo young you still will be open to research things.

Take your questions to me. It is very honest and you are being curious and that is a good thing. As you can see other people will ridicule me for what I am saying and don't invstigate at all and reject what I write by refelx action.
Do you want to become robotic like them?

Don't accept anything , nor reject anything I write but research in your own way. Keep your freedom.

I am only for truth! I am not kidding! School and University are dangerous institutions to our kids!

http://img.docstoccdn.com/thumb/orig/62034255.png


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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:43 pm
@RhiJaneJoyce,
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If you were referring to ME as 'him' I am a female, thank you very much.


I do apoligize
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:47 pm
Global Road to Ruin Through Education- Preview


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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:49 pm
@maxdancona,
I was bullied for three and a half years at the school I attended, so I decided that it would be best if I left. It was a good decision but now I'm starting to realise that it wasn't the best decision for my career path.
Though at the moment I am studying my diploma in Enrolled Nursing, it isn't what I want to spend the rest of my life doing.
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 12:49 pm
@RhiJaneJoyce,
Now, the choice is up to you.
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 01:09 pm
@RhiJaneJoyce,
OK, that makes sense.

The good news is that you won't be bullied in University. Especially in a good University there is none of that nonsense. The people around you will be as smart as you are, and everyone is there for a purpose. You should definitely feel optimistic. Things get much better once you get to University.

I agree completely with you, a diploma in Enrolled Nursing is not a good way to get to a fascinating career in science.

If you have the curiosity, brains and the desire to be a scientist, then by all means you should make that happen.

It is difficult for me to give you specific advice since I don't know very much at all about how education works in Australia. But if it were me, I would go and talk to colleges. There are admissions counselors in colleges who will speak with you. They will tell you exactly what you need to do to be accepted into their programs. You might be able to talk with a guidance counselor at your secondary school who would help. For that matter, talk to anyone who might be able to help you.

In the US, your grades are important, particularly in 11th and 12th years to get into a good science program. You have a couple of years to work on this (I don't know if this is an issue).

My best advice is to go for it. If you want to be a scientist, then make it happen.


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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 01:14 pm
@maxdancona,
Thank you very much for your help.
I will take in all of your advice into consideration and find a way to achieve my goals.
Once again, thank you.

Rhiannon
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 01:31 pm
@RhiJaneJoyce,
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Thank you very much for your help.
I will take in all of your advice into consideration and find a way to achieve my goals.
Once again, thank you.

Rhiannon


Good luck!
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Reply Wed 16 Jul, 2014 03:04 pm
If you truly have a desire to work in the sciences then return to school and take the courses. You are young and may see it all as boring or a waste of time; however, in the long run and bigger picture, it will most definitely be worth the efforts.


Listen to max on this, he is presenting you with solid advice.

Whichever way you opt for, I wish you the best.

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