Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 21 Nov, 2014 11:13 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Under the imperial constitution of 1871, Bavaria was incorporated with the German empire, reserving however, certain separate privileges (Sonderrechte) in respect to the administration of the army, the railways, the mail, and the excise duties on beer, the rights of domicile and the insurance of real estate. The King of Bavaria was the supreme chief of the Bavarian Army. Though Bavaria became an integral part of the new German empire, she reserved a larger measure of sovereign independence than any of the other constituent states. Thus she retained a separate diplomatic service, military administration, postal, telegraph and railway systems. Bavaria had six votes in the Bundesrat and sent forty-eight deputies to the Reichstag.

Bavaria had a military treaty with Prussia from November 23, 1870. Prior to that, there was a mutual defense alliance, which placed the Bavarian army under the Prussian king during time of war. What made Bavaria significantly different than the other states was that articles 61-68 of the North German Confederation Constitution did not apply to Bavaria. As these where the military clauses, Bavaria maintained significant independence in military matters. This treaty was specifically referenced in the Imperial German Constitution section IX. Similar to the other kingdoms of Saxony and Württemberg, there were two Bavarian infantry regiments garrisoned in Lorraine. However, due to the treaty of 1870 these were under control of the Bavarian II Corps in peacetime, rather than the corps area that they were stationed in. The Bavarian Army formed a separate portion of the army of the German empire, with a separate administration. There were three separate Bavarian army corps and Bavarian regiments did not participate in the sequential numbering of the Prussian army. The regulations applicable to other sections of the whole imperial army were, however, observed.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2014 09:01 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Looking in the paper ("Le Petit Parisien") of the 23rd to read the summary of what happened on the Western Front on November 22, 1914

http://i58.tinypic.com/2ry1ppt.jpg

"Rather violent cannonade in the region of Soissons and Vailly ... "

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2014 09:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Let's have a look at frontpage of that paper ...

http://i59.tinypic.com/2898r2c.jpg

... and a closer look at this photo there

http://i58.tinypic.com/vdfokp.jpg

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2014 09:03 am
@Walter Hinteler,
It's situated just below where "Soissons" in written on the postcard below. (And it's on the Chemin des Dames)
http://i61.tinypic.com/2mc65py.jpg

In the newspaper it is said that the this castle was cannoned by "the barbarians". It was used as an ambulance, which had been ignored by the Germans. But fortunately the wounded could be evacuated from the castle before it was heavily bombarded over several hours.


Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2014 09:05 am
@Walter Hinteler,
One of the thousands historic sides which were destroyed during the war.

This "petit Chambord", as it was called locally, was "the pearl of Aisne".

A postcard from about 1910
http://i58.tinypic.com/2uqdmz8.jpg

This one, showing the entrance, was published in 1914 (sic!)
http://i57.tinypic.com/2v9epzp.jpg

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2014 09:07 am
@Walter Hinteler,
From 1914 as well, but after the above mentioned bombardment
http://i57.tinypic.com/2hrzf3p.jpg

And since the frontline was here during all the years of the war, changing forth and back just some couple of meters until 1917/8 ...

http://i58.tinypic.com/oro64h.jpg

...the castle was destroyed more and more.


Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2014 09:32 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The hamsters told me that due to "Flood Prevention" I had to wait ...

On April 16, 1917 the castle was bombarded for the last time

http://i60.tinypic.com/2zhh9jp.jpg

http://i58.tinypic.com/2sbv7gw.jpg



And now left .. today's view

http://i60.tinypic.com/2gxlm2s.jpg

(I've driven through this region about 30 or even 40 times, so please excuse this little excursus!)
panzade
 
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Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2014 09:16 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
You're excused...fascinating stuff Walter
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panzade
 
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Reply Sat 22 Nov, 2014 09:17 pm
A Hitler watercolor painted in 1914 was sold today for $150,000.
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/N_zG19qik17ppJg04fyXkw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTY0NTtweW9mZj0wO3E9NzU7dz05NjA-/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/d0852f3aec122b2d660f6a7067004de4.jpg
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 23 Nov, 2014 06:59 am
@panzade,
The two major newspapers in Frankfurt/M (Germany) have similar headline on their frontpage, on November 23, 1914 ...
http://i59.tinypic.com/3312efc.jpghttp://i59.tinypic.com/4kxq8p.jpg
... namely referring to official Turkish reports from the day before that the Turkish army had reached the Suez Canal, captured/killed/injured a couple of English soldiers ...


The clash (actually on November 20) was a minor one: a patrol of 20 men of the Camel Corps attacked by about 200 mounted bedouins.

The official English report about this (published in MacMunn, G., and Falls, C., Military Operations Egypt & Palestine - From the Outbreak of War with Germany to June 1917, London, 1928:
Quote:
Meanwhile, on the 16th November, the Indian troops destined for the defence of Egypt reached Suez, and battalions were moved as quickly as possible to Ismailia and Port Said. Major-General A. Wilson, arrived from India, was appointed G.O.C. Canal Defences. The Sirhind Brigade was relieved and sailed on the 23rd to rejoin its division in France. At the same time Sir J. Maxwell was informed of Lord Kitchener's project of bringing the Australian and New Zealand contingents to Egypt for war training. The intention was to send them later to France, but temporarily they would be available as reserves in Egypt, where their appearance would undoubtedly impress public opinion.

On the 20th November occurred the first hostilities. A patrol of 20 men of the Bikanir Camel Corps, under Captain A. J. H. Chope, was attacked at Bir en Nuss, 20 miles east of Qantara, by 200 Bedouin, who approached it under a white flag. The party extricated itself creditably, though with casualties amounting to more than half its numbers. Unfortunately this affair proved that the loyalty of the camel troopers of the Egyptian Coastguard, several of whom accompanied the Bikanirs as guides, was extremely doubtful, since they allowed themselves to be made prisoners in a manner virtually amounting to desertion.

There was for a considerable period no further contact with the enemy, and for the rest of the year the headquarters of the Force in Egypt and of the Canal Defences had time to prepare defences and organize the troops.


But more will happen later ...
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 23 Nov, 2014 07:16 am
@Walter Hinteler,
You notice this "drawing" in the centre of the Kleine Presse's frontpage: "Einst und jetzt" (Once and now)
http://i57.tinypic.com/28tdjko.jpg

It's actually a Swiss postcard, showing a scene from the "Great Swiss Manoeuvre" of 1912, Emperor William shaking hands with the French general Paul Pau, who lost his right arm during the 1870/71 war, and commanded the army in Alsace at the beginning of the war, became a French diplomat in Russia at the time when the paper was published. (Incorrectly, the report says that Pau is 'now' organising the reserve troops.)
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 23 Nov, 2014 10:50 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The Bavarian Brewers' Journal ...
http://i59.tinypic.com/67tm6t.jpg
... a weekly journal, which addressed questions of brewing technology and of growing hop and barley, reports about the war in the November 23, 1914 issue as well - two shorter and a rather long report under "Miscellaneous".

http://i60.tinypic.com/nq3clv.jpg

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 23 Nov, 2014 10:51 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The first refers to a report published earlier in the (Social-Democratic) newspaper "Vorwärts"
http://i59.tinypic.com/2gt8avn.jpg
In an Army postal service letter ('Feldpostbrief') a soldier from the Bavarian Forest writes to his mother
"Dear mother! Things are not easy here. And we don't have beer. Best wishes, your son W."

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 23 Nov, 2014 10:52 am
@Walter Hinteler,
The directly following news in the Journal gives some hope
http://i57.tinypic.com/wc1wzs.jpg
A railway wagon with Bamberg beer has been sent to the 1st bataillion of the Royal Bavarian Bamberg Landsturm. ("Landsturm" is a kind of third-class infantry or militias) There will be weekly one waggon send to Liege, delivery to the soldiers will be done there by a local Belgian brewery. This is done with the consent of the Royal Bavarian Army Command .

[Since this is a Sunday supplement to this thread:]

The brewery in the "Steinernes Haus" in Bamberg ...
http://i62.tinypic.com/j5dv81.jpg
...beer sold under the name of "Michel Bräu" (bankruptcy in 1919)
http://i62.tinypic.com/zu4gbc.jpg

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 23 Nov, 2014 10:52 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Beer being sold with the consent of the army's command ... something, which wasn't so in the first days of the war: no alcohol at all for the troops!
And that's what the third report deals with in the first sentences: no-one even complaint about it!
http://i60.tinypic.com/16i9zys.jpg
The articles continues with quotes from scientific reports about the advantages of alcoholic beverages, and gives several examples.
The summary ...
http://i59.tinypic.com/1y0lm0.jpg
... concludes that there "is no reason, why our troops in the western armies, who are station in the world's most wine-packed country, should avoid drinking wine, especially since the French red wine is one of the healthiest and easily digestible wines worldwide."
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 23 Nov, 2014 01:21 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The title of the above report, "Der Alkohol als Heimittel im Krieg" could be translatet to 'Alcohol as a cure-all solution in war'.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 24 Nov, 2014 02:35 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
The Austrian Feldblatt ("Battle Field Journal") was a daily two-page newspaper, published during the First World War, with official news and reports and rumours from other sources. It wasn't allowed to share it with civilians - the official news on the publishing date was as new as 4 am the same day.

So the reports from November 24, 1914 ...

http://i59.tinypic.com/25gx9w9.jpg

... are more or less similar to those on the days before.

http://i59.tinypic.com/2d8fh3o.jpg
The above article refers to "an Italian source" that Ypres soon will be totally in German hands - the Allies couldn't held the lines anymore. French military correspondents think that the battle is finished.

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 24 Nov, 2014 02:36 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
This report from the German headquarters is interesting:
http://i61.tinypic.com/2zr0vuu.jpg
The German submarine "U 18" was sunk, according to news from the English Admiralty, by am English patrol-boat on the northern Scottish coast.
Three officers and 23 of the crew were saved, one seaman died.

http://i57.tinypic.com/f1l3ki.jpg

The loss of the U18

22/23 November 1914.

Quote:
The U 18 was one at least three U –boats known by the British to be operating in the waters around Orkney late in November 1914, the other two being the U 16 (Kapitanleutnant Hansen) and the U 22. It was due to the sighting of U-boats around Orkney, and the fact that the defences to Scapa Flow were not yet in place that the Admiralty took the decision, on the 22nd November to sail the fleet from Scapa Flow to ports on the East Coast of Scotland. It took the sinking of U 15 off Fair Isle in August 1914 to show the Royal Navy the real threat that Submarines now posed to the Fleet at anchor in their main North Sea Harbour. Until then no one believed U-boats had the range to venture that far into the North Sea.
On the 1st September 1914 an incident took place which went to show how seriously the Admiralty took the threat. A lookout caused a scare when he believed he saw a periscope in the harbour area, the fleet put to sea in a great hurry, some ships even firing their guns at what they thought to be periscopes. In fact no U-boats had entered the Flow and the whole episode became known as the ‘’First battle of Scapa Flow’’. There was a repeat performance just six weeks later, and just goes to show how seriously Jellicoe now took the threat to his ships in what was still a very un-secure anchorage.
14th November 1914 the U 18 set off from her base in Heligoland to patrol the waters off the Orkney Isles. On the night of the 22nd from a position SE of the Islands Kapitanleutnant Von Henning, commander of U18 noticed searchlights in the direction of Scapa Flow and thinking the fleet was in Harbour decided to make an attack on the anchorage itself. As the U 18 approached the Pentland Firth the crew were surprised to see the Pentland Skerries lighthouse lit, they were not to know but this was to aid the Fleets evacuation from Scapa that night.
When level with the Skerries, with batteries full, the U 18 dived to enter Hoxa Sound. 11 am, aided by the strong tides and the fact that the Boom nets were open to allow a Steamship to pass the U 18 entered Scapa Flow, Von Henning raised periscope, and to his disappointment noticed the flow to be empty.

11.20 am. As no worthy targets were in Scapa Von Henning decided to make his way back out through the Hoxa Boom and out to open sea. At the entrance to Hoxa Sound the U 18's periscope was spotted by the examination steamer Tokio, who raised the alarm, the whole patrol were now looking for him. To negotiate her way back out into the Pentland Firth the U- 18 had to keep coming up to periscope depth. Von Henning did this once too often.
12 10pm.The minesweeper No 96 which in peacetime was the Aberdeen trawler Dorothy Gray (ex A212), was patrolling the entrance to Hoxa Sound when the skipper Capt. Youngson RNR noticed a periscope 1 ¼ miles off Hoxa Head, and took the only action open to him and rammed the U-boat. The Dorothy Grey lifted three-foot in the air; the excited crew seized anything handy to throw at the Submarine in a vain attempt to damage it.

The U-boat was thrown on its beam-ends, her steering gear and Hydroplanes were damaged and periscope bent over at right angles. Von Henning seemed in a hopeless position with a blind, half-crippled submarine but again the U 18 dived still trying to make the open sea.
See-sawing up and down, unable to maintain her depth the U 18 struck the seabed so hard that it sent her once more to the surface where he was met with another crash, not the Dorothy Grey this time but a Destroyer.
HMS Garry was answering to a rather ecstatic signal sent by Dorothy Grey when the U-boat surfaced right in front of her, and was rammed ''good and proper''. U 18 dived once again this time hitting the seabed in 230 feet. The Forepart of the U-boat was badly damaged, but Von Hennig still tried to slip away, but a short while later she struck another rock and this time she struck so hard she damaged her props and a fire started in the battery room.
The situation was now grim for the U-boats crew , Von Henning only had one choice left to him and that was to surrender.
All tanks were blown and the U 18 came to the surface, the crew climbed on deck and raised the white flag and fired star shells into the air. The U-boat had been spotted on the surface by the Brough Ness lookout and duly reported. The lookout was an Orkney Territorial, Robert Wilson who when reporting the U boat was asked if he knew the difference between a submarine and a whale, to which he replied ‘’ well, if it’s a whale its got 25 men standing on its back ‘’

Two destroyers, the HMS Erne & HMS Garry were soon closing on the U-boat whereupon Von Henning gave the order to scuttle, and seacocks were opened. As the destroyer Garry came alone side the U 18 Sank. Three officers and 23 of the crew then swam to the Garry and were taken prisoner, one crewman drowned. The circumstances surrounding the loss of the U 18 were kept secret in the hope that the Germans would believe she fell foul of the Scapa defences which were in fact still 9 months from completion.

The next Day the U 16 entered Scapa Flow through Hoxa Sound but seeing the Fleet Had sailed slipped back out without being spotted. U 22 also tried to enter but due to a defective engine could not fight the tide and had to retire. These were the last U-boat attacks on the Flow itself until the tragic UB 116 attempt in 1918.

K.J.Heath 2002
I thought this English report to be very interesting (I've been nearly rammed by a Danish submarine when that boat surfaced yards away from our minesweeper.).
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 24 Nov, 2014 03:19 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Speaking about "Austria": it wasn't small country in 1914:

http://i62.tinypic.com/2wdc2g9.jpg

Area (1914): 676,615 km² (261,243 sq mi)
Population: (1914) 52,800,000 [Density 78 /km² (202.1 /sq mi)]


Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 24 Nov, 2014 03:34 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
And speaking about Austria and submarines:
the Emperial and Roayal Navy's submarine fleet had several U-boats: the U-5 class was built to the same design as the C class for the US Navy, and was built by Robert Whitehead's firm of Whitehead & Co. under license from Holland and his company.

http://i61.tinypic.com/14oc6jd.jpg
U-5, the lead boat of the U-5 class, as seen in a pre-war postcard
 

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