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Death penalty for "aspostasy" in Sudan

 
 
Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 01:19 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/sudan/10833226/Pregnant-woman-faces-death-in-Sudan-for-apostasy.html
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 02:47 pm
@gungasnake,
I could post many attacks every day. And Sharia enforcement. The point is they are not going to stop. Dealing with things later will only lead to submission. Or least that seems to be the plan.
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So I ask, again, why do liberals give Islamic Shariah law virtually a free pass?

Here are the possibilities:

They’re afraid of the consequences;

they’re commitment to the multiculturalist falsehood that all cultures are equal trumps their commitment to liberty, tolerance and free expression;
they are completely ignorant of the oppressive nature of Shariah law and death-cult qualities of Islamic fundamentalism;
they are too busy criticizing their own country and Israel to get sidetracked with the loathsome conditions in Saudi Arabia and other parts of the Islamic world.

Am I missing anything?

Apparently, liberals also fail to notice who are generally the first victims of Shariah law when it overtakes a nation. Liberals.

Even more to point, all of those for whom liberals create special protected classes are the immediate targets of Shariah law – homosexuals, women and minorities.

Think about it. How many times have you seen a liberal condemning radical Islam or Shariah law?

It just doesn’t happen.

So how strong is that supposed liberal commitment to women’s rights, gay rights and minority rights if they won’t stand up to the world’s biggest oppressor of women, gays and minorities?

Do liberals only fight for their constituencies in Western countries where it is safe and convenient to do so?

How come liberals never utter a peep about the grotesque, barbaric, oppressive society that is Saudi Arabia?


Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/05/liberal-blind-spot-on-islam/#wwB07jj7HdFW1feu.99
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 03:55 pm
@coldjoint,
Despite the fact I'm not a conservative (being the apolitical guy that I now am), I must say I have to agree with this statement that you have just quoted. So, I'm waiting for the progressive response to refute it. But what could any progressive possibly say? The quoted statement seems to be right on the mark. I'd be willing to listen to any argument to the contrary; but like I've just said, what could progressives say?

Lest I forget, on another occasion in another thread, I did note that during the late 1970s (if not earlier), Gloria Steinem condemned Saudi Arabia for their mindless subjugation of women.
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 04:34 pm
@wmwcjr,
You might want to check out these two links to topics at Democratic Underground:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017191121

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014804682

I haven't had time to read them word for word; but at a cursory glance, it would seem that some liberals at least share your concern. Smile

Make of it what you will.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 05:11 pm
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:
Despite the fact I'm not a conservative (being the apolitical guy that I now am), I must say I have to agree with this statement that you have just quoted. So, I'm waiting for the progressive response
Progress toward WHAT????
Toward collectivist oppression???????
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 05:29 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Interesting questions (with multiple question marks even). Smile

But . . . but . . . but . . . As you undoubtedly know, I did not coin the term "progressive." It's earliest use in this country was, I believe, within the first 20 years of the previous century. You would have to check with A2K's resident historian -- namely, Setanta
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/469fe2bfa4efee6e9f1d81adce8869ee?r=R&d=identicon&s=180
(Cute dog! Smile ) -- to provide more accurate information concerning the use or derivation of this term. I've just used it as a label for convenience's sake. So, I have no political message to convey therein.

Later. . . .
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 05:42 pm
@wmwcjr,
That 's like saying that something is going
without say WHERE.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 05:44 pm
@wmwcjr,
wmwcjr wrote:
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/469fe2bfa4efee6e9f1d81adce8869ee?r=R&d=identicon&s=180
(Cute dog! Smile )
R u sure?????
I thawt that was HIM.
wmwcjr
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 06:05 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Well, I certainly don't look like this! Laughing

http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/8629dfa3dc0d8868aa6ff8243c88c33b?r=R&d=identicon&s=180

(So, it's dopey, people. I ain't proud!)

Gotta go. . . .
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 11:14 pm
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There will not be a hashtag for the pregnant Christian facing execution in Islamic Sudan, set to die for apostasy. The Obama Administration will not take up her cause, or in feigned outrage, protest her execution with a little shout out on social media. She will die, unless divine intervention comes from another source. Leftists progressives have used the Boko Haram outrage for the own devices, to divert attention to any perceived “social injustice” committed against Muslims in Nigeria. This is appeasement in action.


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Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton haven’t championed #BringBackOurGirls because it’s a hashtag in support of the kidnapped girls, but because it undermines the Nigerian government. They aren’t trying to help the kidnapped girls. They’re trying to bring down a government that hasn’t gone along with their agenda for appeasing Boko Haram and Nigerian Muslims.

http://the-american-journal.com/no-hashtag-for-pregnant-christian-facing-execution-in-islamic-sudan/

The hashtag politics aren’t aimed at the terrorists. They’re aimed at helping the terrorists.



Obama and Boko Haram want to bring down the Nigerian government and replace it with a leadership that is more amenable to appeasement. It’s the same thing that is happening in Israel and Egypt.



Boko Haram’s kidnapping of the schoolgirls is both convenient and inconvenient for Obama and the State Department. On the one hand it has brought negative attention to their stance on Boko Haram, but on the other hand it may end up toppling the Nigerian government and empowering Muslims.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 04:19 am
@gungasnake,
http://www.emirates247.com/crime/world/gang-rape-victim-faces-public-caning-2014-05-07-1.548240
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Buttermilk
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 04:25 am
Radical or fundamentalist Islam is dangerous just as fundamental Christianity as expressed by those who bomb abortion clinics or Israeli Jews who sterilize Ethiopian Jews who migrate to Israel and discriminate them on all fronts in Israel are wrong. As a liberal/progressive I condemn this whole heartedly. You conservatives feel better now?
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 04:49 am
@Buttermilk,
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Radical or fundamentalist Islam is dangerous just as fundamental Christianity


My my you finally said something I agree with and Christianity have a long long history of killing people for the same reasons see the numbers of people torture to death for being secret Jews with special note of the Spanish Inquisition.

At least they are not planning on torturing or burning the poor woman to death.
BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 05:26 am
@BillRM,
Oh I had forgotten to add that good old fundamental Christians many from the US had gotten laws passed and or trying to get laws pass in such nations as Ugandan to imprison for life and even execute people for the "crime" of being homosexuals.

Does anyone find if strange that gunasnake have not created a thread dealing with this outrageous behavior in the name of god by Christians?
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 08:27 am
@gungasnake,
http://nypost.com/2014/05/15/pregnant-woman-to-be-flogged-hanged-for-marrying-christian/

http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/sudan1.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 08:37 am
@gungasnake,
It was a little more than 50 years ago that people were killed by Christian groups in the US for marrying outside of their race.

I have always opposed religious conservatives when they do things like this.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 08:40 am
@Buttermilk,
You have some explanation for Bork Obunga's admin to have been hindering Nigeria's attempts to fight Boko Haram??

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3156746/posts
gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 08:41 am
@maxdancona,
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It was a little more than 50 years ago that people were killed by Christian groups in the US for marrying outside of their race.


http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101009140746/uncyclopedia/images/3/34/Bullshit.jpg

Moooooooo plop, plop, plop.....
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 08:58 am
@maxdancona,
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It was a little more than 50 years ago that people were killed by Christian groups in the US for marrying outside of their race.


Just one example of that. I'll wait.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 16 May, 2014 09:01 am
@coldjoint,
No Problem Coldjoint.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_Till
 

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