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The School of Belle Knox-Duke Porn Star

 
 
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2014 07:48 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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I think it's sad that this woman chose to degrade herself to make money.


For sure, Finn, why degrade yourself for big bucks when you can join the USA military and degrade yourself for a pittance.

For female recruits - "According to a New York Times article from March a year ago, about one in three women in the armed forces has been sexually assaulted, twice the civilian rate".

And, on top of the great pay and free sex there's the opportunity to become a paraplegic or quadriplegic, or if you're really lucky a chance to commit a more serious than normal war crime, something on the order of a MyLai or a Fallujah.

Be all that you can be in the ar-ar-ar-army!!

But even if you don't hit the war crimes jackpot you know that you can degrade yourself with ordinary everyday run of the mill terrorist activities.

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 11 Apr, 2014 11:50 pm
This to me looks to be attention getting. The porn industry is gutted due to far to much free porn available on the internet so there is little money there, and this girl is not even good looking (too thin, too small tits, face just ok). I sense some giving a walk to her feminist bona fides a walk as well.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 12:22 am
@panzade,
The idea that a women degrading herself in hard-core porn videos is threatening to a patriarchal society is ridiculous.

If anything, the hackneyed perception of such a society is that woman are sex toys. What they do when they are not being objects of male lust is hardly a threat, and if all they do is deliver a diatribe against such a society from a very shaky stage, I doubt the Old White Men would even notice the ruckus.

This girl made a very bad decision. I don't condemn her. I save my condemnation for the vapid fools that would hold her up as a champion for feminism or against archaic sexual mores.

I will say though that while I can understand why she would want to twist reality to spare herself shame, if she takes it further by trying to cash in by writing a book or, God forbid, running for political office, then my judgment about her will change drastically, and for the worse.



JTT
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 12:49 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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hen my judgment about her will change drastically, and for the worse.


She's likely headed for the confessional and redemption as we speak!

Don't you find it odd, Finn, that you can deliver these homilies yet you feel nothing for innocents slaughtered?
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 01:06 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
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This girl made a very bad decision.
Why was it bad? Can you name even one negative consequence?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 01:19 am
@hawkeye10,
sounds like it is going well

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2583675/EXCLUSIVE-The-photos-Duke-porn-star-Belle-Knox-cutter-gets-aroused-hurting-herself.html

She is a big time cutter, but has been for a long time, and she likes BDSM which is fine by me.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 01:21 am
@hawkeye10,
Then my judgment about her will change drastically, and for the worse.
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panzade
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 06:32 am
@hawkeye10,
That's an interesting article hawk.
I don't know much about cutters and wonder if they are mostly female.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 07:24 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn,

I question your claim that the pornography industry "preys" on women.

It is a way for women to make a heck of a lot of money in a career. Women can generate and sell an image they themselves control. Women have built media companies in pornography.

Compare this to what the NFL does to its stars. I think women in pornography do much better then men do in professional sports.



hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 11:41 am
@maxdancona,
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It is a way for women to make a heck of a lot of money in a career.
used to be, "Teen Mom" Farrah Abraham has made over $400,000 on her porn but that was a special case.

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I think women in pornography do much better then men do in professional sports.
good point.

Also, much is made of the high level of previous sexual abuse with porn stars, the claim is that porn is a form a re-abuse under the theory that porn stars are not responsible for choosing porn...the abuse made them do it. This always seemed backwards to me, I think that the sexually abused choose to sell sex because they more than their peers have learned the value of what they have to sell.
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 12:28 pm
Thing is she wouldn't be in porn or writing a book about it or be the subject of conversation about it on a chat site if not for the prurient curiosity and interests of people like us. C'mon Finn et al, come have lunch with the regular guys.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 03:38 pm
@hawkeye10,
Not that you would agree with.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 03:42 pm
@maxdancona,
Yeah, they're all well adjusted, happy sex magnates.

Drug addiction is rampant and suicide quite common. Aside from that it's a great career path for young women.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 08:33 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
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Drug addiction is rampant and suicide quite common.


URL: http://able2know.org/reply/post-5633978


I had trouble finding any credible statistics on the suicide rate of porn stars. Do you have any unbiased source backing your claim that suicide is "quite common"?

There have been several ex-NFL players who have committed suicide. I wonder how the rate compares to porn performers. If you are going to make types of claims, I hope you are able to back them up with facts.


hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 12 Apr, 2014 10:03 pm
@maxdancona,
an actual study has it

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Porn actresses had a history of more drug use than the comparison group, but they differed on recent drug use only on marijuana.


then there is this gem paragraph:

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It was found that porn actresses were not less psychologically healthy compared to the general public. In fact, the opposite pattern was found, although self-esteem is only one component of psychological health. This finding does not support the beliefs held by the general population found in prior research (e.g., Evans-DeCicco & Cowan, 2001), which reported that individuals believed porn actresses were less psychologically healthy compared to women not involved in pornography on a composite measure that included self-esteem. It should be pointed out that the matched sample did not have low self-esteem scores. In fact, the matched sample had self-esteem scores comparable to averages found in other studies (e.g., Baranik et al., 2008), so it was the case that the porn actresses had higher scores than the general population. Some evidence of high self-esteem ratings that may be related to the current findings were reported by Herold, Corbesi, and Collins (1994) who found that women who were topless at a beach had higher self-esteem than women who were not topless. Topless women reported a sense of personal freedom, whereas women who were not topless reported embarrassment. Porn actresses are typically nude in their scenes and appear in front of camera crews and audiences who later watch the movies in which they appear. It is likely that low levels of embarrassment are experienced among porn actresses, and being able to be completely naked in front of others might be associated with an elevated self-esteem. Although exhibitionism was not measured, that may also be a common characteristic of porn actresses. For an exhibitionist, performing in an X-rated film may be associated with an environment where that characteristic is rewarded. Self-esteem has been conceptualized as the extent to which one values, approves, or likes oneself (Blascovich & Tomaka, 1991). Thus, if porn actresses are exhibitionists, it may be the case that performing sex acts on film are associated with heightened feelings of self-approval because they may be receiving reinforcement from management, coworkers, and fans, which may subsequently be related to elevated levels of self-esteem


http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2012.719168#.U0oKqfldUy8
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panzade
 
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Reply Sun 13 Apr, 2014 08:08 am
@maxdancona,
The NFL comparison was thought-provoking max.
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JTT
 
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Reply Sun 13 Apr, 2014 10:39 am
@maxdancona,
With all due respect, Finn does not do sources. Sources bind a body too tightly to reality based thinking. It hampers free thinking, not to mention endangering the Constitution and the American way of life.

Even you are aware of that, Max.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2014 04:22 pm
@maxdancona,
You didn't look very hard.

Try https://www.shelleylubben.com/home

It may be that the death rate by drug overdose and AIDs is higher than that of suicide, but that hardly recommends the profession to young women.

Yours is the among the worst of Progressive practices. Start with a premise or two: "Women are equal!" "Any sort of sex among consenting adults is A-OK." and then back into an obscene notion such as the pornography industry being a fertile ground for aspiring young women.

Both of these premises are valid, until twisted out of shape to make some sort of vapid point - "Belle Knox is/can be/should be/ a feminist star.

Apparently a woman need only lay claim to feminist intent to trigger your liberal reflex.

I don't blame her, she's scrambling to preserve her identity, but people like you who buy into this nonsense are, at the least, disappointing.

The irony is that if she had come out and claimed that she was a victim of a misogynistic industry that exploits young women, you would likely have been calling for congressional investigations.

That’s the problem with a belief system that is predicated upon adherence to superficial slogans.





Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2014 04:23 pm
@JTT,
And all you do is sources. If you have a detailed position of your own beyond "America is filth!," I've yet to see it.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 16 Apr, 2014 07:32 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn, Do you know the meaning of the word "credible"?

The site you link to has an agenda and a clear bias. There are no real statistics there.

I spent a little time on the "Porn Stats" page just to see if there is anything with scientific merit. There is nothing, it gave anecdotes out of context and numbers rather than rates. I was especially interested in the "life expectancy" statastic they gave. The footnoted reference is circular. Great.

I still wonder if there are any credible statistics.

 

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