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Blown up over the ocean? sunk to the bottom of the ocean? stollen or hijacked?

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 23 Apr, 2014 05:05 am

A large piece of metal has washed ashore in Australia. It does not contain any feature that indicates that it is part of the missing plane (and it may well not be). But it'll probably be worth noting what the experts assess when they examine it.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-23/material-washed-ashore-examined-for-links-to-flight-mh370/5407584
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 23 Apr, 2014 10:21 am
@oralloy,
These constant hopeful reports every time a piece of junk is spotted points to what is wrong with modern governments (who are running the incompetent search) as well as media (who who is mainly interested in attracting eyeballs to sell, as evidenced by the idiots they hire).

Credibility is in mighty short supply. This has serious long term implications.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Wed 23 Apr, 2014 10:44 am
Amelia Earhart was never found and her disappearance generated shelves full of books and films, so the same thing will happen with MH370, authors, film makers and conspiracy theorists will be making a mint out of it for years to come unless it's found, and we can expect to see headlines and stuff like-
"MH370 ROSWELL LINK!"
"MESSAGE IN BOTTLE FOUND FROM MH370!"
"HUBBLE DISCOVERS MH370 ON MOON!"
"MH370 TAILFIN FOUND IN AMAZON JUNGLE VILLAGE"
"MH370: THE ABOMINABLE SNOWMAN LINK"
"DID NOSTRADAMUS FORESEE MH370 DISAPPEARANCE?"
"OBAMA RESPONSIBLE FOR MH370 LOSS CLAIMS FORMER PENTAGON OFFICIAL"
etc
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 23 Apr, 2014 10:55 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
a couple thousand pounds, including one very primitive radio

700,ooo pounds, including advanced electronics and recovery beacons (which apparently never activated)

It is easy to write a conspiracy based upon all of the "mistakes" of this search that we know about, the current primary one is that multiple governments are covering up that they think it is in one of the "Stans".
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katsung47
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2014 01:20 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
Google my name for whole story.

Supplementary to 826.

352. Pre-psychological propaganda (10/22/05)

On 7/7 and 7/21, there were bombings took place in London. It was a cover up operation to justify the plotted master bombing in US. To deceive the public that these were the work of Al Qaida. The unusual events happened in same day (July 21) may prove my allegation.(see #330)

Then Feds planned a big action day in September.(9/24) They also planned an elimination of my family members and arranged a trip accident for them. To make the accident not so unusual, Feds, too, prepared a series of airplane accidents to cover up it. In three weeks from 8/14 to 9/5, there were four big air accidents.

1. On 8/14, a Greece plane crashed near Athens, 121 killed.
2. On 8/16, a West Caribbean Airways plane crashed in Venezuela; 152 killed.
3. On 8/24, a TANS Peru plane crashed in the Amazon jungle, killing 37.
4. On 9/5, an Indonesian jetliner crashed in North Sumatra, killing at least 60 of passengers. (The above information were from news of the day.)

When I first heard of Greece accident, I only impressed by the mysterious situation (lack of oxygen, frozen) before its crash. But when the Peru air crash took place, I realize it might be an operation to cover up a coming air accident. My relatives were arranged in a trip between 9/10 and 9/17. If an accident happened, it would be easily added one more to the above list and wouldn't cause any notice. That's why I talked about this twice in 9/2 and 9/7. (see #339, 340)

Pre-psychological influence is a very important tactic Feds uses. We have seen scenes such like Lewinsky scandal, Wen Ho Lee's case, WMD in Iraq..... The recent one is the hurricane Katrina and Rita. Which mainly planned to justify for a high rising inflation. So media want us expecting a gas of 5.00/gallon because most of the oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico were damaged by hurricane and so was for many oil refineries. That how much money would spend for the refugee and re-build.(e.g. 400,000 people live in the hotels and how much that costs for one day's rent) Now these kind of information are disappeared from media. Or proved to be exaggerated. What I see is the oil dropped below $60.00 a barrel.(10/26) Why, because the framed case went sour and Feds still must keep the interest rate as low as they can to maintain a high housing market.

If the framed case have went successfully, I believe you would meet another face of media. Then you would have believed that all that sudden jumping high inflation was caused by oil and the natural disaster.

The latest movement of propaganda activated by Feds is the Bird Flu. That's another psychological war to justify a new slaughter in the name of natural disaster. Watch how the media propaganda it under the command of Feds.

353. Hurricane (3) Chemical and Greece air accident (10/27/05)

When I said Hurricane Katrina and Rita were created by Feds for a framed case, there were sarcasms such like "You mean government has a weather machine?", or "to create a hurricane with a fan?". Those people, either are very ignorant, or most likely, to smear a truth on purpose. Government doesn't use an oven to produce a warm weather or use a fan to blow wind, just like they don't sprinkle the water to make an artificial rain. They use chemical. (see #218. Chemtrail and climate war)

Control climate generally means control the movement of air stream. By controlling area air pressure or temperature, people can build artificial air passage or air wall, (of course, invisible, but sometimes people saw the chemtrail in the sky) guide the air mass move to area they want. Either it is cold air mass, or warm air mass, or humid or dry air mass.
Now let's turn on to the crash of Greece air plane which I alleged one of four accidents done by intelligence. It caused my attention for its mysterious situation. Here are news about it.

Quote, "YAHOO NEWS:
Cypriot plane crashes near Athens, 121 killed
By Yannis Behrakis

A Cypriot airliner crashed into a mountainous area north of Athens on Sunday killing all 121 people on board after apparently suffering a loss of cabin pressure or oxygen.

"The pilot has turned blue," a passenger said in a mobile text message to his cousin, according to Greek television. "Cousin farewell, we're freezing." "

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=ALT.TV.LOST+FAQ+EDITION

Quote, "Greece Plane Crash Kills All Aboard

"Shortly before the crash, the jet pilots saw one of the airline pilots slumped unconscious over the controls, ...... Some Greek media reports said fighter pilots also could see oxygen masks dangling inside the cabin."

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050814052709990004&ncid=NWS00010000000001

What took place in the Greece plane seemed as follows: the cabin lost pressure, oxygen and temperature.

But it's a Boeing 737. One of the most advanced air craft. And the plane has a well designed oxygen supply and pressurization system. So far we have never heard any problem of the insulation broken which caused low pressure that killed the people on board. This was the only one.

A spokesman for the European Aviation Safety Agency, Daniel Holtgen, based in Cologne, Germany, said: "It is highly unlikely that the loss of cabin pressure alone would cause such an incident. There would have to be other contributing factors." (source, the above Yahoo News)

What were the other factors? It's a puzzle. Then it came the Katrina and Rita. In a TV news report about a research plane which flew over the hurricane, I caught what the researcher said. He said he couldn't believe it that the air pressure was incredible low outside the plane. It suddenly touched off my mind. I thought Feds spreading chemical to control the pressure of air to alter the weather. If the air pressure could be created so low to astonish the researcher, (it was in open air, air would flow from other area to refill) then what would have happened if it was in a closed cabin? I thought of the Greece plane.

I think it is a chemical which is easy to gasify and easy to react with the element part of air (either oxygen, nitrogen or carbon dioxide) and developed to another substance.(either liquid such like water, or solid) Air, after losing part of its element, has lost pressure. The chemical reaction also sucks heat.

A hurricane needs a warm air mass with rich water vapor. Ocean supplies it. A hurricane also needs big air pressure difference and temperature difference above it. This chemical supplies it. That's how an artificial hurricane developed.

When that chemical is used in a closed cabin. The low pressure and temperature it created will kill the people inside it. Oxygen may be exhausted as a component in the reaction. That's what happened in the Greece air plane.

I allege Feds used the same chemical in Greece air accident as they used in hurricane creation. It's not a coincidence when I said the four air accidents was a cover up operation of Feds and Katrina and Rita were created for the same framed case
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2014 02:36 pm
@katsung47,
PERSPICACITY AS THIS REQUIRES ITS OWN THEME MUSIC.


Please read the above post with this playing on your speakers. Quite appropos sez me.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Mon 28 Apr, 2014 05:37 pm
Quote:
Katsung said: @RF- Google my name for whole story.

Sorry mate i just don't have time.
Can't you just tell us in a couple of sentences why the authorities want to kill you and your family?
What have you done to upset them?
katsung47
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2014 02:35 pm
@Romeo Fabulini,
The Feds - DOD and DOJ, (FBI and DEA). Because what I wrote reveals the truth of this country and the dard side of the Feds.

829. A disinformation to mislead public (4/24/2014)

Three days ago, there was such a news:

Quote:
How jet stowaways can survive cold, lack of oxygen

By JUSTIN PRITCHARD 4/21/2014

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Despite the subzero temperatures and lack of oxygen, people can survive even a long journey in the wheel well of a jetliner. The latest example is a teenager who, according to authorities, stowed away on a 51/2-hour flight from San Jose, Calif., to Hawaii. While the number of known stowaway attempts is few, people have survived with surprising frequency.

http://news.yahoo.com/jet-stowaways-survive-cold-lack-oxygen-202510259.html


Did you notice something unusual of the topic of this news? It emphasizes that it’s not that cold and lack of oxygen in high altitude . Do you know why they had this news? I think it was a misinformation created by the mastermind of the missing Malaysia airliner MH370 at the purpose to discount my allegation that the people in MH370 were killed by decompression when it was hijacked by auto pilot system.

It was a swift response to my article “825. How did they kill the crew and passengers (4/3/2014)” and “826. Decompression – a method to kill (4/9/2014)”.

Even if they indeed carried out such a “stowaway” operation, it still won’t prove anything for them. Here I quote a comment:

Quote:
JIm En espanol- Jaime2 hours ago

I am not familiar with this model of Boeing A/C, but on other models the air in the cabin is changed completely every two minutes, with the old heated air being discharged throught high volume outflow valves, in this case into the wheel wells. Since there was no evidence of frostbite it must be assumed that the temperature remained above a certain level, and also that there was enough oxygen to prevent death. The key here is the large volume of air being discharged.

http://news.yahoo.com/jet-stowaways-survive-cold-lack-oxygen-202510259.html

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Fri 9 May, 2014 05:13 pm
@katsung47,
Quote:
my allegation that the people in MH370 were killed by decompression when it was hijacked by auto pilot system.
So you think that the machines are killing us off now.....interesting.

I doubt it, but if this plane did go up several thousand feet at the turn as some claim and stayed there for 15 minutes you have to wonder if the reason was to kill the passengers. This would mean that the cabin oxygen system was turn off.
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sat 10 May, 2014 01:10 am
At the moment the authorities (far eastern air traffic control and the military) are squirming with embarrassment at losing a bloody great airliner, hence all the buck-passing and cover ups that are going on.
Plus of course none of them have got the balls to simply say the gay muslim pilot probably suicided and took his passengers with him.
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LONGOF
 
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Reply Thu 15 May, 2014 06:15 pm
@RushPoint,
Could the Pilot of the Flight MH370 dropped the plane onto one of the craters of the hundreds of active volcanoes on the route?? Nothing can be discharged now!!
katsung47
 
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Reply Tue 20 May, 2014 02:06 pm
@LONGOF,
830. Uninterruptible autopilot system (5/1/2014)

Someone argued that how a computerized auto pilot system could drive the plane to avoid the ground radar. That opinion based on that auto pilot system was a pre-set up program. The reality is that Boeing have installed “uninterruptible autopilot system” in its plane. Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system. The aircraft was taken over by the ground controller. The system was originally developed to prevent air hijacking. But when the ground controller becomes criminal, the airliner can be hijacked for evil purpose. That’s what happened in 911. That’s what happened in MH370.

Quote:
New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
03 March 2007

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/article7239653.ece/alternates/w460/hijackMOS0303_228x119.jpg

Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system. Currently, all autopilots are manually switched on and off at the discretion of pilots.

The so-called 'uninterruptible autopilot system' - patented secretly by Boeing in the US last week - will connect ground controllers and security services with the aircraft using radio waves and global satellite positioning systems.

After it has been activated, the aircraft will be capable of remote digital control from the ground, enabling operators to fly it like a sophisticated model plane, manoeuvring it vertically and laterally.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/new-autopilot-will-make-another-911-impossible-7239651.html


Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 20 May, 2014 02:27 pm
@katsung47,
katsung47 wrote:

830. Uninterruptible autopilot system (5/1/2014)

Someone argued that how a computerized auto pilot system could drive the plane to avoid the ground radar. That opinion based on that auto pilot system was a pre-set up program. The reality is that Boeing have installed “uninterruptible autopilot system” in its plane. Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system. The aircraft was taken over by the ground controller. The system was originally developed to prevent air hijacking. But when the ground controller becomes criminal, the airliner can be hijacked for evil purpose. That’s what happened in 911. That’s what happened in MH370.

Quote:
New autopilot will make another 9/11 impossible
03 March 2007

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/article7239653.ece/alternates/w460/hijackMOS0303_228x119.jpg

Once triggered, no one on board will be able to deactivate the system. Currently, all autopilots are manually switched on and off at the discretion of pilots.

The so-called 'uninterruptible autopilot system' - patented secretly by Boeing in the US last week - will connect ground controllers and security services with the aircraft using radio waves and global satellite positioning systems.

After it has been activated, the aircraft will be capable of remote digital control from the ground, enabling operators to fly it like a sophisticated model plane, manoeuvring it vertically and laterally.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/new-autopilot-will-make-another-911-impossible-7239651.html





The grassy knoll...the grassy knoll.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 27 May, 2014 02:07 pm
This is great....some tracking data is being released, but not enough of it so that independent analysis can be done to see if the conclusion that the plane ended up in the ocean along Western Australia is valid.

The KeyStone Cop act or cover-up continues.....
oralloy
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 05:01 pm
Quote:
The four acoustic pings at the center of the search for Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 for the past seven weeks are no longer believed to have come from the plane's black boxes, a U.S. Navy official told CNN.

http://cnn.tv/2014/05/28/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-pinging/index.html
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 28 May, 2014 07:20 pm
@oralloy,
You wait, years from now when they finally find this plane it will be thousands of miles from where they said it was.
katsung47
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 01:32 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
This is great....some tracking data is being released,


835. Uninterruptible Auto Pilot System (5/27/2014)

Quote:
Malaysia releases satellite data on missing jet
By EILEEN NG and CHRIS BRUMMITT 5/27/2014

http://news.yahoo.com/malaysia-releases-satellite-data-missing-jet-043556329.html


None released data will be helpful for investigation as the criminal that caused the missing of MH370 also control the satellite information. Do you think they will expose themselves? Anyone with common sense which one has the ability to make a Boeing with 300 people in it disappear without trace.

Former P.M. of Malaysia says:

Quote:
BOEING TECHNOLOGY – WHAT GOES UP MUST COME DOWN
May18th 2014
Written by chedet

……

3. MH370 is a Boeing 777 aircraft. It was built and equipped by Boeing. All the communications and GPS equipment must have been installed by Boeing. If they failed or have been disabled Boeing must know how it can be done. Surely Boeing would ensure that they cannot be easily disabled as they are vital to the safety and operation of the plane.

4. A search on the Internet reveals that Boeing in 2006 received a US patent for a system that, once activated, removes all control from pilots to automatically return a commercial airliner to a pre-determined landing location.

5. The Flightglobal.com article by John Croft, datelined Washington DC (1st December, 2006) further mentioned “The ‘uninterruptible’ autopilot would be activated – either by pilot, by on board sensors, or even remotely by radio or satellite links by government agencies like the Central Intelligence Agency, if terrorists attempt to gain control of the flight deck”.
6. Clearly Boeing and certain agencies have the capacity to take over “uninterruptible control” of commercial airliners of which MH370 B777 is one.
…..

11. For some reason the media will not print anything that involves Boeing or the CIA. I hope my readers will read this.

http://chedet.cc/?p=1361#more-1361

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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 05:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
You wait, years from now when they finally find this plane it will be thousands of miles from where they said it was.

You know, when they moved the search area to the north, I thought I saw a serious flaw in their logic. But then when they said they were hearing pingers, I figured they were right and I was wrong. But now I'm wondering about that logic again.

The flaw I thought I saw was: they moved the search area to the north based on the speed they thought the plane was going. They thought the plane was flying faster than optimal and therefore ran out of fuel sooner.

However, the satellite pingers were indicating that the plane flew for some 7 hours after losing contact. To my mind, proof that the plane flew for some 7 hours is direct contradiction to any theory that the plane crashed before that.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 31 May, 2014 06:22 pm
@oralloy,
" the speed they thought it was going"=wild guess
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jun, 2014 01:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
Someone who claims the understand the satellite data thing, who thought maybe the plane went north, is now convinced that it went South as the searchers have been claiming

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/future_tense/2014/06/inmarsat_releases_data_showing_mh370_definitely_went_south.html
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