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More evidence of city ruins on Mars

 
 
Reply Thu 28 Nov, 2013 09:09 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bGJHh7T2rk SaveFrom.net

Good stuff. In fact I'd rate this one AAA. People who halfway follow this stuff have seen two or three other such examples but this one I'd not heard of previously.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 29 Nov, 2013 01:29 am
@gungasnake,
hes increased the contrast and dismissed the grey scale so much that hes looking at raster lines and resolution is based upon interpolation so of course stuff looks orthogonal, that's how its scanned.
What a putz
gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 29 Nov, 2013 08:06 am
@farmerman,
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hes increased the contrast and dismissed the grey scale so much that hes looking at raster lines and resolution is based upon interpolation so of course stuff looks orthogonal, that's how its scanned....


The usual claim would be that you're looking at jpeg artifacts of some sort, but no such claim really works. The author of this one notes in fact (around 6:14 on the video) that the supposed "artifacts" do not extend into a crater as they assuredly would if they actually were artifacts. Jpeg compression in particular smears any sort of noise evenly around an image:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r53/icebear46/crater_without_artifacts_zps756ec44d.jpg

In real life of course, nobody constructs buildings and other city infrastructure inside a crater, and raster lines would go into the crater as well.

I've gone to the trouble to download original ESA images myself in two such cases, particularly the Hale Crater region, and reconstruct the image using just brightness and contrast controls and I can assure anybody that no jpeg or any other kind of image artifacts ever produced an image like that:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r53/icebear46/hale7.jpg

That's my own rendering, some of the images on Skipper's site are more interesting:

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2005/084/hale-civ-evidence.htm

Images of the Hale crater taken from different angles show the same objects, which absolutely forbids interpreting the structures in the images as artifacts.

The other area which I've done the exercise for myself is called Medusa Mensae or something like that, again my own reconstruction:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r53/icebear46/medusa-hirise-yellowsmall_zpsbdd8e71a.jpg

The original ESA image looked entirely like a sandy desert and nothing more. This was from adjusting hues as well as brightness and contrast.

Again, the jpeg process smears any sort of noise over an entire image so that no artifact could ever produce anything like that.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 29 Nov, 2013 09:00 am
@gungasnake,
This crap has been going on for about 20 years and all of them have been debunked. The fact that these don't show up until extreme contrast is used (The fact that the crater doesn't raster is because its already in high contrast)
If you just follow the developing ptterns they show up only after a bit of tone variation is "Forced" into it.
Real airphoto interpretation never forces colors or tones, it only enhances whats already there.

This is totally bogus and probably will get the guy a spot on ANCIENT ALIENS or COAST TO COAST
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 29 Nov, 2013 12:51 pm
No, no . . . Gunga Dim is right, FM . . . the Martians had cities, but they destroyed their civilization through unbridled capitalism and opposition to gun control.
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 29 Nov, 2013 12:58 pm
@Setanta,
I was doing some deep remote-interspectral flatus detecting and I detected large emanations from a specific coordinate within the area that ganja presented. I was surprised at what I saw. SOmeones not keeping us informed


       http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR9Y_6o7XaYhqVO0twEyl11gJm8wpu7eQMRDSv9Qpg_P2_HrHhQ
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Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 29 Nov, 2013 01:07 pm
Is that Waldo ? ! ? ! ? I might have known . . .
farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 29 Nov, 2013 02:30 pm
@Setanta,
Looks like the Apocalips have come. If a Wally mart, Mickey Dee's is close behind and all that cheap crap made in China.

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maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 29 Nov, 2013 03:57 pm
@gungasnake,
That structure is unquestionable.

It is clearly a mosque.
gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 29 Nov, 2013 04:06 pm
@maxdancona,
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That structure is unquestionable.

It is clearly a mosque.



Possible. I mean, they may have had slammites in prehistoric times and somebody figured out they needed to be on Mars...


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gungasnake
 
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Reply Fri 6 Dec, 2013 06:10 pm
Hiroshima from the air, 1945:

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSgtcL_DvrXKj4tpXmrTnXpV9rvDCqiJvGr7dUT6fhIJ1cphUlw0w

Not that much different from some of the Mars city images. once you undo the ESA/NSA smudging...
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farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 6 Dec, 2013 06:33 pm
@gungasnake,
     http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r53/icebear46/medusa-hirise-yellowsmall_zpsbdd8e71a.jpg


I swear to God you are fuckin mental. How and the hell can you possibly make a loony case as this?
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Jpsy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2013 02:43 am
@gungasnake,
Gunga, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. That there is or was intelligent life on Mars that constructed cities is an extraordinary claim. Those photos you presented are far from worthy of being considered extraordinary evidence.

"The evidence put forth by proponents of such things as gods, ghosts, the paranormal, and UFOs is highly questionable at best and offers little in the way of proof. Even if we accepted what evidence there is as valid (and it is highly debatable if we should), limited and weak evidence is not enough to overcome the extraordinary nature of these claims"

You need crystal-clear photos of a martian civilization to support your extraordinary claim. Those jpegs are not sufficient.

We have actual scientists whose careers are devoted to discovering evidence of intelligent extraterrestrial life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_for_extraterrestrial_intelligence
"Some of the most well-known projects are run by Harvard University, the University of California, Berkeley, and the SETI Institute."

Don't you think if these photos were truly evidence of a martian civilization, these scientists (who have devoted their entire lives to this cause) would be actively investigating it?
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Romeo Fabulini
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2013 04:11 am
As orbiting cameras get better and better in the coming years they'll either conclusively reveal cities and structures on the moon and planets, or they'll put paid to such theories once and for all.
For example here are some shots by the Lunar Recon Orbiter Camera (LROC) a few years ago zooming in on the lunar crater Tycho, they give a good idea of how good high-definition cameras can be-

Tycho-
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/CMSF/tychoD.gif~original


Tycho is 86 kms diameter-
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/CMSF/thchoA.gif~original



Tycho's central peak has a boulder resting in a hollow on the top-
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/CMSF/tychoB.gif~original



The boulder is 120 metres long-
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g64/PoorOldSpike/CMSF/tychoC.gif~original

http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/?archives/411-Tycho-Central-Peak-Spectacular!.html
farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2013 06:42 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
that Is, without doubt the moon's belly button
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Sun 8 Dec, 2013 06:47 am
@Romeo Fabulini,
Romeo Fabulini wrote:

As orbiting cameras get better and better in the coming years they'll either conclusively reveal cities and structures on the moon and planets, or they'll put paid to such theories once and for all.


Facts and evidence have never stopped believing nonsense. If and when Mars has been given the Google Earth treatment, there'll be those pointing to natural phenomena and seeing it as proof of underground Martian cities.
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