Snowdon is a dummy

I have read what ci writes and never saw one single hint of hatred for the place he lives in, only for the way it is governed. You are just taking a cheap dishonest shot at him. And of course you cannot prove any of it... Cheap.

I get respect from the people I respect...

...just like you...

Well, we're all stupid at a level or another. It's all relative. I'm stupid compared to those that are smarter than me. But you can't possibly be THAT stupid as to not understand that ci means, even when it's explained to you by others, using simple words as one would explain a child. You're just pretending to be stupid. That's my point.

Now go ahead and pretend that you don't understand me.

If you want to suppose that silly distinction between country and government actually is a difference...do so.

I understand you probably better than you understand yourself, Olivier.

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If you want to suppose that silly distinction between country and government actually is a difference...do so.

It does amount to a big difference, and you know that. You're just lying again...

This is the kind of opinion by Frank that drives me up the wall!

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I understand you probably better than you understand yourself, Olivier.

What condescending bull shyt! He can't see it.

I agree it's bad form, and also that it Frank deserves all the s..t he gets. In fact he is enticing it, as it allows him to think he is pressing people's buttons.

And that's exactly what he wants to do: make his opponent lose his cool. I'm just ignoring this condescending BS.

Our country is its government...and our government is a direct result of our voting. If you hate the government...you essentially hate the electorate.

If you say, as ci says, that nobody can be in government here and do a decent job...then you are saying the place disgusts you.

Frank Apisa wrote:

Our country is its government...and our government is a direct result of our voting. If you hate the government...you essentially hate the electorate.

That is a radical leap. I can hate the government and have no issue with an electorate that was given a choice between two candidates with little real information to make a decision and millions spent to distort their opinions.

Frank Apisa wrote:

If you say, as ci says, that nobody can be in government here and do a decent job...then you are saying the place disgusts you.

??? Ummm no. In 2010, North Carolina elected a ridiculous, backwards state government. I love the place but I can clearly recognize poor government and work to make it better.

The argument that if you love the country you must love the government is not only silly but dangerous.

Sometimes if you love your country you have to speak out against your government.

That is a radical leap. I can hate the government and have no issue with an electorate that was given a choice between two candidates with little real information to make a decision and millions spent to distort their opinions.[... ]

The argument that if you love the country you must love the government is not only silly but dangerous. Sometimes if you love your country you have to speak out against your government.

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That is a radical leap. I can hate the government and have no issue with an electorate that was given a choice between two candidates with little real information to make a decision and millions spent to distort their opinions.

Well said!