@chai2,
Your Ex was obviously a heretic, and no religious scholar.
This thread was resuscitated? Fitting, I suppose.
Anybody found a modern scholar of antiquity who disagrees that Jesus existed?
@Olivier5,
The thread was resurrected, but I think it took more than three daze...
@FBM,
Necromancy is a powerful tool in the webz...
@Fil Albuquerque,
You got that right. Most of the deniers here have been resurrecting theories long abandoned by serious scholars.
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
You got that right. Most of the deniers here have been resurrecting theories long abandoned by serious scholars.
Why should we let all the serious scholars have all the fun? Besides they may be serious scholars but what makes them an absolute authority? Are you saying a serious scholar is never wrong?
@Krumple,
Quote:Besides they may be serious scholars but what makes them an absolute authority? Are you saying a serious scholar is never wrong?
Nobody is an absolute authority, but I for one will take a well informed and cogent opinion more seriously than that of someone who never gave much thought to an issue and never studied the facts.
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
Quote:Besides they may be serious scholars but what makes them an absolute authority? Are you saying a serious scholar is never wrong?
Nobody is an absolute authority, but I for one will take a well informed and cogent opinion more seriously than that of someone who never gave much thought to an issue and never studied the facts.
Okay but sometimes a person who hasn't been over washed in a subject can occasionally have a perspective that has never been considered before. I don't discount them even though they might be idiots.
@Krumple,
I'm okay with new perspectives. What I wrote about is people who clinch to long-disproven theories, like the people who think the earth is flat.
@Finn dAbuzz,
Probably. When Jews, Christians, and Muslims all agree on something, take it to the bank.
If Pilatus and Herodes, public figures, were confirmed to exist, based on archaeological findings besides the bible, why can't we confirm that Jesus and John the baptist existed, based on historical writings in the bible. After all they were not public figures as Pilatus, Herodes .
It would be really weird if it was just a mythical guy that the world decided to base their calendar starting date on and people are still talking about 2000+ years later. Man, did he get more than his 15 minutes of fame!
@Leadfoot,
a)
argumentum ad populum fallacy.
b) "the world" didn't decide on the calendar. Just a few politically powerful people did, and the rest of the countries followed suit for self-preservation (from the Roman Empire), geopolitical and economic reasons, not out of a belief that Jeeebus was the son of an invisible god.
@FBM,
Quote:@Leadfoot,
a) argumentum ad populum fallacy.
b) "the world" didn't decide on the calendar. Just a few politically powerful people did, and the rest of the countries followed suit for self-preservation (from the Roman Empire), geopolitical and economic reasons, not out of a belief that Jeeebus was the son of an invisible god.
First you say it was popular then you say a few politically powerful people. Whatever. But you're still talk'n about the dude aren't ya...
Let me guess, you like CE better than AD, right?
@Leadfoot,
I like evidence-based reasoning better than red herrings or other logical fallacies. Are you capable of that with regards to your religious convictions?
@FBM,
FBM wrote:
I like evidence-based reasoning better than red herrings or other logical fallacies. Are you capable of that with regards to your religious convictions?
Normally, until sacrifice season comes along and then there's no stopping me.
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
FBM wrote:
I like evidence-based reasoning better than red herrings or other logical fallacies. Are you capable of that with regards to your religious convictions?
Normally, until sacrifice season comes along and then there's no stopping me.
Well, that's commendable in religious circles.
@FBM,
the Big Bang and many other scientifically arrived at theories are logical fallacies. And don't even mention stuff like quantum physics. It's practically dripping with them.
If you wish to avoid all logical fallacies you had better stick to sports. Science will not help you there.
