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The Long "A's" Journey into Night

 
 
Post: # 36,513
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2002 10:47 am
(apologies to Eugene O'Neill)

In listening to our local newscasters,(and a few national ones) I discovered something that really aggravates me, and that is their pronunciation of the words that should contain the sound of a long "A"; consequently, "daily" becomes "deli"--"sale" becomes "sell" , etc. In the same breath, many will drop their voices as though there were a period present, when in actuality, there is a comma. The result is something like: "The Deli Telegraph believes that. we should all," etc..etc.etc. I am no longer a purist, but this stuff can lead to misinterpretation which could turn deadly in more astute matters.

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2002 11:11 am
I know what ya mean, Boss . . . personally, i climb the wall when i hear ". . . and he was long-live-d . . . " (which is to say, pronounced with the long "i"). The verb is to live, and long- or short-lived is formed with the past participle. Another such aggravation is specific to my area--on public radio here, we have an announcer who, while being guilty of the long-live-d pronunciation, also thanks one of the local sponsors everyday, and gives their little slogan, speaking of their "germet" cuisine. For some reason, that irks the hell out of me. This is a man who scrupulously pronounces the French, German and Italian names of composers and titles of their works, and then cannot say gourmet properly.
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2002 11:24 am
"germet"? Love it! Very Happy We need to send that man to the Deli Telegraph. Well, Setanta. that's almost as bad as one local announcer who talked about the "idees" of March. Got any "idee" where that came from? Surprised
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2002 11:24 am
Sounds Eye-talian to me . . .
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Post: # 36,542
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2002 11:30 am
heh..heh. ...an Eye-talian from D-troit who can sing the aria from Pag-a-gee gee.
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2002 11:49 am
Letty: Does it seem to you that mebee they are attentionally trying to agervate you? I get that feeling sometimes. Laughing
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2002 12:04 pm
Laughing Laughing Raggedy. One of my sweet students signed my yearbook by saying: "Miss Letty, You are a good teacher, and you have learned me "alot" in your class." Hmmmmmm. I think he went on to create a Waste Management Co. and is quite wealthy now. Shocked
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2002 12:10 pm
I've had to deal with PhD candidates and PhD's in my working life, and have been appalled by their gaffes in their "mother" tongue. The worst part of it is that as PhD's, they will not admit of any correction. One insisted that "colloquial" means a regionalism--i pointed out that it derives from colloquy, and that it simply refers to the patterns and usages of a spoken language. He refused to accept this, adamant that he was correct, even when confronted by an unabridged dictionary. Another i knew used mentors and "mentees" in his thesis. When i pointed out that there is no verb in English which is "to ment," and that mentor comes from Mentor, the man Odysseus trusted to care for his son Telemachus, it made no difference. His basic response was that no one would see this as an error--sadly, he was very likely correct in that assumption.
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2002 12:19 pm
Laughing Laughing Well done, Letty.
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2002 01:13 pm
Embarrassed I know about Mentor, but (bows head in chagrin) I thought that colloquialisms had to do with regional aspects, too.
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Reply Fri 13 Dec, 2002 02:55 pm
Well, Boss, almost all regionalisms are colloquial, but, strictly speaking, not all colloquialisms are regionalisms . . . it's a fine point, but as the gentleman in question tried to bully those (not just me) disagreeing with him based on his participation in a Linguistics PhD program, i was particularly disgusted . . .
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Reply Sun 15 Dec, 2002 08:15 am
Letty: I suspect the poor "A" no longer has the strength to manifest its long form in your area because it's been pulling double-duty in my neck of the woods for that shiftless long "O." Did I mention I grew up near Toleda, Ohia?
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Reply Sun 15 Dec, 2002 09:46 am
I heared tell of Toleda, Ohia; called fer Toe-lay-doh in Spain, nuther steel town, I think.

I figger if you're goin' ta Toleda fum out West, say fum Seeattle, Worshington, when you get ta Brooklyn, Ioway, ya don't toin off, jist keep on headin' east. If you 'uz ta head off down through Muhzoora, y'all might fetch up in Nawluns, Looseyanna, er even Tixhuhs, by doggies.
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Reply Sun 15 Dec, 2002 10:04 am
A gal on NPR the other day was talking about the "Libary" of Congress. If that's the place I'm thinkin' of, it's in Worshington, D.C. ... a big ol' pile with lots a chimbleys.
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Reply Sun 15 Dec, 2002 07:21 pm
Debacle, you give better directions than AAA. Yep, as near as I can figure the Mason-Dixon Line must be located somewhere north of Marquette, Michigan these days...
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Reply Mon 16 Dec, 2002 05:55 am
Howdy there, WhoodaThunk! Welcome to A2K ... great to see you and the grand avatar you're sportin'. Smile

Yup, Ah speck yer rat bout at air ol' M-D lahn.
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