Law enforcement sources who spoke exclusively with FoxNews.com claim that a package with a notebook from Aurora shooting suspect James Holmes was sent to the University of Colorado Anschutz medical campus in Aurora care of a psychiatrist who also teaches at the school.
According to the sources, the notebook, which arrived on campus up to a week prior to the shooting, was "full of details about how [Holmes] was going to kill people," and included "drawings and illustrations of the massacre."
One of the people who spoke with Fox News said the package was received by the mailroom on July 12th, but another source said the exact receipt date could not be confirmed.
Both sources said the intended recipient of Holmes' notebook was a professor who also treated patients at the psychiatry outpatient facility, located in Building 500, where the first suspicious package was delivered. It could not be verified that the psychiatrist had had previous contact with Holmes, who was a dropout from the school's neuroscience doctoral program and had studied various mental health issues and ailments as part of his curriculum.
An FBI agent with the Denver Division said he could not comment on the package or its contents due to a court-issued gag order.
Fox News is getting some attention for a bombshell report about a notebook supposedly sent to a University of Colorado psychiatrist that may outline Aurora shooting suspect James Holmes' plans for a massacre at a movie theater, but at least one local news organization, Denver's alt-weekly Westword, has doubts. The Fox News story, written by Jana Winter, cites two unnamed law enforcement officials who said they had found a package languishing in a university mailroom addressed to a psychiatrist who teaches at the school. The package, which one source said arrived on July 12 (another cited by Winter "could not say if the package arrived prior to Friday's massacre"), contained "a notebook full of details about how he was going to kill people," one source said, per Winter. "There were drawings of what he was going to do in it -- drawings and illustrations of the massacre." Winter describes the images as including "gun-wielding stick figures blowing away other stick figures."
If true, that's incredibly disturbing, but Westword's Michael Roberts followed up on the report and had this splash of cold water for the story:
Neither the FBI nor other law-enforcement agencies (or the University of Colorado) would confirm that the notebook had been found, or that it had been definitively determined to have been sent by Holmes -- meaning questions of a timeline are unresolved as well. Moreover, as we pointed out in an earlier post, the case against Holmes has been sealed by 18th Judicial District Judge William Sylvester.
It's worth remembering that there have been other reports about Holmes that have been contradicted and reframed like ABC News' story about Holmes' mother seeming to confirm that Holmes "was the right person." (She claims she actually meant she was the right person the reporter was seeking.) As Reuters wrote about the notebooks, it "could not immediately verify the report but was seeking to do so," and the headline on its story puts a lot of distance between it and the news: "Report of suspected Colorado shooter's notebook surfaces." If the Fox News report turns out to be true, it will be a key development since it suggests someone could have known about Holmes' plans before his alleged shooting spree.
CU has now released a statement about reports of a package from James Holmes being sent to a psychiatrist/professor. The note doesn't directly address whether or not a package was found, but it indirectly pours cold water on the suggestion that one might have sat around for a week before being discovered. The statement reads:
The University centrally receives mail from the United States Postal Service. The University then delivers the mail to the address on the Anschutz Medical Campus the same day it is received. For example, mail delivered on a Friday is delivered on Friday. The University's mail service is not open on Saturday. Saturday mail is sorted and delivered Monday morning. The University does not log or track mail/packages unless it requires a signature from the United States Postal Service.
The date matters re the schools liability
Quote:The date matters re the schools liability
How do you figure the University has any legal liability in this matter?
If brain experts we working with a guy who was clearly a danger to others through mental malfuctioning then they might have liability for not taking action.
If brain experts we working with a guy who was clearly a danger to others
through mental malfuctioning then they might have liability for not taking action.
This is such a dangerous ground to get into. This is too easy to pin mental malfunctioning on people who you want to go away. All you have to do is deem them mentally malfunctioning and then what? They are permenaly removed from society? For doing what? Potentially causing harm?
Stories that come out of fox news can be trusted as much as taboloid stories.
They call themselves a news organization but they wouldn't know
what news was if someone actually told them what news was.
The date matters re the schools liability, but the main point here is Holme's ego trip.
He wants it very well known that he is a smart guy,
which leads me to believe that he had left the impression during the last year that he was not up to snuff.
July 27, 2012
Defense: Aurora shooting suspect saw psychiatrist
Updated at 4:22 p.m. ET
(CBS/AP) DENVER - The former graduate student accused in the deadly Colorado movie theater shooting was being treated by a psychiatrist at the university where he studied, according to court papers filed Friday.
Defense attorneys for James Holmes, 24, made the disclosure in a court motion. It sought to discover the source of leaks to some media outlets that Holmes sent the psychiatrist a package containing a notebook with descriptions of an attack.
The motion says that the leak violated a judge's gag order in the case and jeopardizes Holmes' right to a fair trial.
"The government's disclosure of this confidential and privileged information has placed Mr. Holmes' constitutional rights to due process and a fair trial by an impartial jury in serious jeopardy," wrote the attorneys.
The motion adds that the package contained communications between Holmes and his psychiatrist that should be shielded from public view. The document describes Holmes as a "psychiatric patient" of Dr. Lynne Fenton.
Calls to Holmes' lawyer, Daniel King, were referred to the head of the Colorado State Public Defender's office, Douglas Wilson, who was out of the office and did not immediately return a message seeking comment.
A message left with Fenton's office was not immediately returned. The University of Colorado's website identifies her as the medical director of the school's Student Mental Health Services.
Casmir Spencer, a spokeswoman for the Arapahoe County District Attorney's office, said she could not comment.
Theater shooting suspect was psychiatric patient
Posted on: 2:45 pm, July 27, 2012,
(CNN) — Colorado shooting suspect James Holmes was a patient of a University of Colorado psychiatrist before last week’s attack at a movie theater that killed 12 people and wounded scores, according to a court document filed Friday by his public-defense lawyers.
The disclosure was in a request by Holmes for authorities to immediately hand over a package he sent to Dr. Lynne Fenton at the university’s Anschutz Medical Campus.
According to Holmes’ request, the package seized by authorities under a July 23 search warrant was a protected communication.
“The materials contained in that package include communications from Mr. Holmes to Dr. Fenton that Mr. Holmes asserts are privileged,” said the document filed by public defenders representing Holmes. “Mr. Holmes was a psychiatric patient of Dr. Fenton, and his communications with her are protected.”
In response, prosecutors asked for Arapahoe County District Judge William Sylvester to deny the request by Holmes, saying it contained inaccuracies including claims of media leaks by government officials that in reality may have been fabricated by news organizations.
Sylvester granted a hearing on the request for Monday, the same day that Holmes is scheduled to be formally charged in the case...
Holmes, who identified himself to police as “the Joker,” allegedly opened fire in the theater on July 20 during the midnight premiere of the Batman movie “The Dark Knight Rises.” He remained in custody after being ordered held without bond earlier this week, and will be formally charged on Monday.
Two court orders signed by Sylvester were posted on a court website Thursday noting restrictions on information the University of Colorado could release about Holmes. The 24-year-old had recently dropped out of a Ph.D program in neuroscience out of the school’s campus in Aurora.
The orders, in addition to a previous one issued Wednesday aimed at “limiting pre-trial publicity” at the defendant’s request, endeavor to restrict the amount of publicly available information in order to assure “the fairness of a trial.”
Authorities discovered the package Holmes sent Fenton on Monday in a mailroom at the University of Colorado — Anschutz Medical Campus, according to law enforcement official briefed on the investigation said Wednesday.
Fox News reported that the package was addressed to a doctor at the university
In the request for authorities to return the package, Holmes cited media leaks as a violation of Sylvester’s court orders. Prosecutors responded that there was no proof that government officials leaked any information and said the reported leaks may well have been fabricated by news organizations.
“To put it bluntly, the People are extremely dubious of the media assertions that ‘law enforcement sources’ exist,” said the prosecution document.
James Holmes' Prosecutors Say Notebook Story Can't Be Trusted
4:43 PM ET
That story about the notebook James Holmes supposedly mailed to a psychiatrist, outlining his plans to shoot up the movie theater was a hell of a scoop for Fox News, but now Aurora prosecutors are saying in a court filing that it was probably all a big hoax. The new doubts come from a motion prosecutors filed Friday, saying the package from Holmes, discovered in a University of Colorado mailroom, hadn't yet been inspected and any report of its contents -- that would be the notebook -- couldn't be trusted. "The contents were secured and not examined, and held for potential in camera review," the motion says. The motion comes in response to one from Holmes, arguing that his rights to a fair trial hadn't been violated (as he'd claimed) by that leaked information because the supposed leaks were either hoaxes the reporters fell for, or made up by the reporters themselves.
The report from Fox News' Jana Winter, which first mentioned the notebook, cited two unnamed "law enforcement sources," which prosecutors now claim either don't exist or didn't give accurate information. The prosecution's motion, which Reuters' Matthew Keys uploaded to Scribd, also calls out NBCNews.com for inaccurate reporting. The motion claims Fox News' story, which said the FBI had taken possession of the package and its contents (the notebook), couldn't be true because the Aurora police took possession of the package. It also throws cold water on NBCNews' report, from Mike Kosnar, which cited a law enforcement source who said there were two search warrants: one for the mailroom and one for the contents of the package. "This is not correct, as the Aurora Police Department obtained only one search warrant." Finally, there's this charge:
These factual errors lead the People to believe that there may not even be a "law enforcement source" "leaking" confidential information and that the media is getting information from hoaxers, fraudsters, or maybe from nobody at all by creating fake "law enforcement sources" out of whole cloth. To put it bluntly, the People are extremely dubious of the media assertions that "law enforcement sources" exist. The court need not, and should not, accept that the media is correctly identifying the affiliations of the persons they claim are providing them with "information."
Earlier this week Michael Roberts, a reporter with the Denver area alt-weekly Westword, questioned Winters' notebook story, writing that police wouldn't confirm they'd found the notebook from Holmes. We've reached out to Fox News and NBCNews.com, and will update this with their response.
If you are entrenched in a belief system that promises eternity in paradise getting the sexual attentions of 77 virgins (eh), and life is a horrible struggle for you and your family - and one of the primary emotions in your life is hatred of infidels...martyrdom for a bundle of cash, sudden hallowing of your name, and those cool virgins appeal to enough young men to blow a hole in the infidels.
Really? Do u care to give any examples
in support of your conclusion on that point ?
Have the other networks been better?? Evidence thereof ?