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drug tests for welfare recipients?

 
 
hilbert
 
Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2012 10:05 am
The Florida Legislature, as part of enacting "Jim Crow 2.0" passed a state law that welfare recipients are required to pass periodic drug tests to receive welfare.
Of course they are paying for the drug tests, so "Jim Crow 2.0" is costing Florida taxpayers $45k/welfare recipient/year more

http://www.tampabay.com/news/courts/florida-didnt-save-money-by-drug-testing-welfare-recipients-data-shows/1225721
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2012 10:07 am
@hilbert,
http://able2know.org/topic/172899-1
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2012 10:08 am
@ehBeth,
http://able2know.org/topic/186479-1
ehBeth
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2012 10:09 am
@ehBeth,
http://able2know.org/topic/188231-1
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2012 08:37 pm
@hilbert,
$45k per recipient per year? What are they doing, flying each and every one of them to the Mayo Clinic for each test?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2012 08:47 pm
It is my contention that they give much more money to the rich than to the poor. But nobody ever insists they prove they deserve it. Yet, the poor are expected to to be Ward and June Cleaver, as in Leave it to Beaver, to qualify.
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hilbert
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2012 01:41 pm
@roger,
Assuming Florida gives out weekly welfare checks, that is about $865/test, which does seem outlandish to me too. I'll research it more.
Irishk
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2012 02:00 pm
Quick Fact: As of May 16, 2012, at least 28 states put forth proposals in 2012 to require drug testing or screening for public assistance applicants or recipients.
Three states passed legislation in 2011 and four states have passed legislation in 2012, bringing the total number of states to seven. In 2012, Utah passed legislation requiring applicants to complete a written questionnaire screening for drug use and Georgia passed legislation requiring drug tests for all applicants for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families. Tennessee approved a bill to require substance abuse testing for all applicants and Oklahoma passed a measure requiring all applicants for TANF to be screened for illegal drug use.

Map of 2012 State Legislative Proposals:

http://www.ncsl.org/Portals/1/ImageLibrary/WebImages/Human%20Services/DrugTestingBillsFeb2012.gif
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hilbert
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2012 02:00 pm
@roger,
I read it wrong. The number was that the WHOLE program would cost Florida $45k/week more when comparing the likely savings in welfare payments drug users to the costs of the drug tests. This article explains it:

http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/906170/florida_data_shows_welfare_drug_tests_cost_more_taxpayer_money%2C_not_less/
roger
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2012 02:01 pm
@hilbert,
Do, please. Even in the northern "pork chop counties", the can't be that dumb.
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2012 11:23 am
https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/542465_10151834140415710_1661435296_n.jpg
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JPB
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2012 11:30 am
@hilbert,
Follow the money. Chances are someone in the legislative process (or a large financial contributor) owns the drug testing labs.
Thomas
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2012 11:36 am
I hope the federal government makes investment bankers pee in those cups before giving them their next bailout. Fair is fair.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2012 11:55 am
@JPB,
JPB wrote:

Follow the money. Chances are someone in the legislative process (or a large financial contributor) owns the drug testing labs.


that's what was determined on the other two threads where this was discussed (I thought you were one of the people who found the info).
JPB
 
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Reply Tue 3 Jul, 2012 12:37 pm
@ehBeth,
Yes, in the case of FL. I was speaking in a general sense re other states who have passed or are considering similar legislation. I didn't go back to the other threads - my web surfing/linking is limited at the moment - was one of them the ALEC laws thread?
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Steve Drew
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2012 12:52 am
@hilbert,
Hello Friends,

Florida law now requires all aid applicants to be drug tested while Arizona and Missouri require testing for anyone they "reasonably" suspect of illegal drug use.
Other ways welfare rules may change:
•At least 10 states are considering bills that would require photo identification for food stamps or electronic benefit cards.
•At least two states — Ohio and Tennessee — are considering restricting or eliminating eligibility for those convicted of drug felonies.
•At least two states —North Carolina and New Jersey— are considering requiring people to perform community service to receive government help.

Thanks and Regards
Steve Drew
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Thu 24 Jan, 2013 12:52 pm
@hilbert,
The only problem with your use of the "Jim Crow 2.0" is this. Most people on public assistance are white people and not minorities. If you think it is Jim Crow 2.0 then you must think that a majority of people on public assistance are indeed minorities. A little racist don't ya think?
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