We Are All George Zimmerman

@hawkeye10,

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It is twisted and illuminating, like listening to Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, or Richard Pryor talking about the human condition.

But this guy wasn't trying to be funny!
He meant it.
And asks for donations to continue his good work!

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If you pay attention and are smart enough to notice the truth being spoken it makes you think. You never get that far though...

Sometimes that may be the case, though I doubt the "smart enough" bit, certainly not in this case ....
I read the article right through ... & came to my own conclusions. As one does.
Actually, I read it right through a few times, because I couldn't believe someone had written that in all seriousness! Wink

How much further do I need to go to notice "the truth being spoken"?

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@OmSigDAVID,

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I 've not previously encountered that information.

Well you weren't paying attention then.

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Zimmy does give leftists a tangible target for their more abstract frustrations.

I wasn't talking about "zimmy".
I was responding to the article.

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@msolga,

DAVID wrote:

I 've not previously encountered that information.

msolga wrote:

Well you weren't paying attention then.

Most of the time, I read your posts, on a non-obsessive basis.
I did not see that.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

You really say some very silly things sometimes, David.
Actually, it was in response to you declaring that I was a supporter of Stalin.
You haven't a clue, really you don't. Wink

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@msolga,

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You really say some very silly things sometimes, David.

Thanx for that information, Olga.

msolga wrote:

Actually, it was in response to you declaring that I was a supporter of Stalin.
You haven't a clue, really you don't.

I see; OK. That 's good to know.
I was wondering if I had one.

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@msolga,

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But this guy wasn't trying to be funny!
He meant it

Comedians mean it too.....they use humor to look at the human condition, to talk about that which we normally do not talk about.

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Actually, I read it right through a few times, because I couldn't believe someone had written that in all seriousness!
How much further do I need to go to notice "the truth being spoken"?

Until you understand that not everyone is like you, believes as you do.

How about we do this.....please point out what you consider to be the most outrageously false passage, then lets examine it for truthfulness and relevance.

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@msolga,

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Actually, it was in response to you declaring that I was a supporter of Stalin.
You haven't a clue, really you don't.

You claim not to be a fan of Stalins and yet you don't seem to see any sort of a problem with Stalinesque trials, and you don't see the contradiction in that??

I mean, the biggest problem I have with the the article here is that it neglects to mention the problem of a President and AG of the United States joining a lynch mob. That of course is novel and unprecedented. The two Roosevelts, Truman, Ike, and any and all previous presidents would have viewed joining a lynch mob as undignified no matter how many votes they hoped to pick up with it. Even a psychopath like SlicKKK KKKlintler would have calculated that the loss of dignity would cost him more votes than he could hope to pick up from it.

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@msolga,

Actually, when you think about it, the one Russian ruler who anybody would ever compare to Bork Obunga would never have joined a lynch mob either:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/Borisgodunov.jpg/220px-Borisgodunov.jpg

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@gungasnake,

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the biggest problem I have with the the article here is that it neglects to mention the problem of a President and AG of the United States joining a lynch mob

Obama has done this all along (remember the Professor Gates arrest?)...so desperate is he to come off as a "man of the people". So much for the idea that he is a man of principle...he will walk over anyone to get to power, even a young Hispanic man from Sanford Florida.

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You'll be surprised to hear this, but I've found this discussion very interesting.
It's really clear to me where you guys are coming from now.

I doubt you actually care all that much about "Zimmy"& his fate ... in the end it all boils down to "Stalineque trials", "Obunga", gun ownership, etc, ... far right politics, in other words .... no matter what the so-called issue is.
Every roads lead to the same place.

I can see you have a lot on common with Daniel Greenfield & his political agenda.
Perhaps you could send him a donation?

About Me (Daniel Greenfield):
http://sultanknish.blogspot.com.au/2005/03/about-me.html

You can talk away amongst yourselves now & confirm to each other how absolutely right you are.
Not that you need my permission. On this thread & the rest. Wink

But I'm sorry, at this point it's starting to sound like I've heard it all before.

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@msolga,

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But I'm sorry, at this point it's starting to sound like I've heard it all before.

You have heard it all before, and it has been and continues to be discounted by you because you start from the assumption that those who do not agree with you are flawed individuals who can be safely ignored, and should be ignored. You never really hear, because you dont want to hear, your mind is closed.

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@hawkeye10,

Nope.
You're wrong, actually.
I actually bothered to read this article & Greenfield's blog.
Plus quite a bit more from similar blogs, in an effort to try to comprehend what such people are on about, what their beliefs & grievances actually are. What their agenda actually is.
And I've come to the conclusion that his arguments are self-servicing & extremist ... & often not exactly rational. To put it politely.
To claim that Zimmerman is being persecuted because of his name is utterly ridiculous. As are quite a few of his other arguments in that article.
I have no problem at all with moderate conservatives. Never have had. There have been some very decent, constructive conservative politicians in my own country I've admired a great deal.
It's the extremist lunatic fringe (on either side of politics, actually) which spews lies, hatred & intolerance, I have a real problem with.
And that has nothing to do with having a "closed mind". I reject his "arguments", OK?
But you, of course, are quite free to agree with his agenda, if you so choose.
Though it's interesting that you haven't focused on Greenfield's actual arguments in that article.

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@gungasnake,

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That of course is novel and unprecedented.

Yeah, the Repugs, including a "president" like GWB, would never get involved in personal family issues, say, ... like the Terry Schiavo case.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terri_Schiavo_case

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@gungasnake,

We Are All George Zimmerman

You've illustrated that you are stupid enough to be him but millions upon millions the world over would respectfully decline such an honor.

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@msolga,

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To claim that Zimmerman is being persecuted because of his name is utterly ridiculous.

I dont agree...I think it is likely that if George did not have a last name that sounded white then the grass roots campaign for a conviction never would have been successful. I know that I looked in on this story for over a week thinking that Zimmerman is white before I came across someone who pointed out that he is not, and I know the status of American white guilt and self-loathing being white myself, and how significantly this plays into American life. "ANOTHER BLACK BOY IS SHOT DEAD!" would get zero play in the American consciousness under most circumstances because most of these dead black boys end up dead after leading nowhere lives of gang banging and other criminality, their life is cheap to them and it is cheap to all the rest of us as well.

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Black youth and young adults are nearly five times more likely to be killed in California than the average young Californian.

The disparity was even wider for black males, who have a homicide rate more than 14 times that of whites and nearly four times that of Hispanics.

Those are among the disturbing facts in a new report by the Violence Policy Center [PDF] which found that guns and firearms were used in 84 percent of the 803 homicides of 10- to 24-year-olds in California in 2009. Ninety percent of the victims were male.

The report concludes that "homicide, particularly gun homicide, continues to be one of the most pressing public health concerns in California among youth and young adults."

The report comes at a time when youth-oriented social services at a county level are being eroded due to the state's budget crisis, as are rehabilitation services for young people in prison who are released still posing risks to the health and safety of their peers and communities.

Clearly every racial and ethnic group is affected by homicides. The report shows that in 2009 446 Hispanic youth and young adults were killed in 2009 – the highest total of any ethnic group – as well as 80 whites and 26 Asians.

But blacks are disproportionately affected. In 2009, 239 black youth and young adults were killed in California – even though blacks between 10 and 24 comprise only 7 percent of California's population while whites, with 80 killings, make up 33 percent.

The report, underwritten by the California Wellness Foundation, also found huge disparities in the geographic distribution of homicides. While by far the largest number of youth homicides were in Los Angeles County (303), the county with the highest homicide rate among 10- to 24-years-olds was Monterey County, with a rate of 31 per 100,000. Next came Alameda County with a rate of 20 per 100,000, and Kern County with a rate of almost 20 per 100,000.

Twelve counties, including San Diego County, had rates of five per 100,000 or less. (Only the counties with 10- to 24-year-old populations of more than 25,000 were included in the survey).

Monterey County has long been afflicted by youth gang violence, and despite efforts by public and private agencies to stem the killings, including the Community Alliance for Safety and Peace, the problem continues. During one particularly bloody period in the summer of 2009, someone was killed almost every day over a two-week period.

The report also says the county rankings "point to the continuing urgent need for tailored, localized approaches to reducing youth homicide that integrate prevention and intervention while engaging local leaders and community stakeholders."

http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/young-black-males-far-more-likely-be-murder-victims-8405

We rarely ever talk about all of the dead black boys an young men even though they have been filling our morgues for decades because the reality is that we as a nation dont give a ****. But when a black "kid" is killed by a "man" named George Zimmerman our ears perk up, and the name Zimmerman is part of the reason.

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@hawkeye10,

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I dont agree...I think it is likely that if George did not have a last name that sounded white ....

er ....I don't think that was exactly the point Mr Greenfied was attempting to make in his name point.
Read his blog for more clues. Wink

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@JTT,

That's a sort of a bullshit analogy, I mean I don't remember anybody being charged with murder involving Terry Chaivo or Geroge W. Bush claiming that if he had a daughter, she'd look like Terry Chaivo. In fact I don't even remember GOP activists putting out a million dollar wanted dead-or-alive bounty on Chaivo's husband and then a GOP AG smiling and making speeches in front of that group and not charging anybody involved with the wanted flier.

Or could it be that I'm not remembering any sort of **** like that because the US govt. was under adult supervision at that time?

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@gungasnake,

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because the US govt. was under adult supervision at that time?

Now that's hilarious, even for someone as stupid as you, Gunga. Goerge W Bush was not near bright enough to be considered an adult.

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@JTT,

I take it you've decided to drop the idea of arguing by analogy as overly difficult (for a simian mind) and revert to name calling....

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

I take it you've decided to drop the idea of arguing by analogy
as overly difficult (for a simian mind) and revert to name calling....

His mind is so badly disorganized as to render argument impracticable.

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