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The Winding Road To The Republican Nomination For President

 
 
revelette
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 10:15 am
@DrewDad,
Ann Romney: ‘I Don’t Even Consider Myself Wealthy’

Quote:
Apparently “Romneying” — defined as “accidentally bragging about your place high up in the economic stratosphere” — runs in the family.
His wife, Ann Romney, inexplicably talked about her wealth this afternoon during an interview on Fox News. “We can be poor in spirit, and I don’t even consider myself wealthy, which is an interesting thing, it can be here today and gone tomorrow,”

The couple made $20.9 million last year, making more in a day than an average American makes in a year, and are worth about $250 million overall.


Quote:
The full context of Ann Romney’s question-and-answer makes clear that she was asked about the Romney family’s financial wealth:

NEIL CAVUTO: Even in the face of attacks on your husband, or the famous Cadillac comment, that he [owns] two Cadillacs, or he says things that strike some as being out of touch, you defend him, but you don’t dwell on it, you shake your head as does he, but does it pound again and again, especially in light of Newt Gingrich now piling on, saying that your husband, maybe you by extension, the Romney family in general, is oblivious given your wealth, to the everyday concerns of average folks, like gasoline prices, like all this stuff? What do you say to that?

ANN ROMNEY: Well, you know, that’s so interesting. The one thing this disease has been for me has been a wonderful teacher. And with that comes an ability for compassion for others that are suffering. And for me, I want to make my family bigger. Those that are suffering from M.S. or cancer or any disease I feel like I want to throw my arms open and say, welcome to my family and welcome to the place where I’ve been and, so, you know, we can be poor in spirit and I don’t look — I don’t even consider myself wealthy which is am interesting thing. It can be here today and gone tomorrow, and how I measure riches is by the friends I have and the loved ones I have and the people I care about in my life and that is where my values are and those are my riches so for me having done through a difficult period in my life both with M.S. and with breast cancer it has done something to my heart and it’s softened my heart and made me realize there are many people suffering in this country and they are suffering from things that aren’t financial — and some people are suffering from things that are financial, as well — but those that are suffering, for me, I just have a larger capacity for love, and for understanding.


Being wealthy is not a sin, why can't they just admit that they have been fortunate enough to have wealth and move on? To flat out say she does not consider herself wealthy when the Romneny's are worth about $250 billion is just silly.
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revelette
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 03:21 pm
Some light turnout as Ohio polls open for primary

The economy and which candidate had the best chance to beat President Barack Obama were some of the main concerns cited by Ohio Republicans voting on Super Tuesday in the GOP presidential primary.

They appeared split on which candidate could best represent their interests and those of the country at large, while some seemed less than enthusiastic about their choices in the closely watched race.

Don Ryan, 71, voted at a polling location in Anderson Township in suburban Cincinnati. Ryan, who is retired, said he voted for Mitt Romney because he thinks he has the best chance to beat Obama.

"He has less baggage than the others and more money to help him against Obama," Ryan said.

He said he would have liked to see other candidates in the GOP field and that he is not sure Romney is really conservative, but he wants a nominee selected.

"I was ready for it to be over in November," he said.

Mike Reardon, 45, an aircraft mechanic voting in suburban North Royalton in Cleveland, said he voted for Rick Santorum despite concerns about whether Santorum can beat Obama. "Me, I want to get Obama out of there," said Reardon, who believes Obama has a socialist agenda.

Josh Brooks of Columbus said he had considered voting for Romney but former House Speaker Newt Gingrich won him over with his energy plan for lowering gas prices.

Nancy Beck Doak, a 52-year-old aquatics instructor voting in suburban Cincinnati, said she voted on a school issue but ignored the presidential race.
"I don't care for any of them, Republicans or Democrats," she said.

Voters have other choices to make in the primary. Those include an unusual match of two Democratic U.S. House members pushed together under congressional redistricting and a contested primary for the Republican nominee to oppose Democratic U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown. There also are two judges competing on the Democratic side to challenge an Ohio Supreme Court justice and numerous candidates seeking legislative seats.

In state races, there are 14 Democratic and 18 Republican primaries for House seats, and three Republican primaries for Senate seats. There also were some 100 local school issues are on ballots across the state.

No early problems with voting were reported Tuesday, with some areas reporting light turnout that appeared to pick up as the day went on.

Romney and Santorum devoted most of their campaigning to Ohio in the last days before the 10-state primary voting. Romney was looking for a decisive victory, while Santorum hoped to regain momentum. Gingrich also was hoping to pick up some delegates but was counting on a possible win in Georgia to spur a comeback.

Some Ohio voters who described themselves as independent weren't impressed with anyone in the Republican field.

"It's going to make me vote Democratic," said Chuck Horning, a 47-year-old accountant and one of the earliest voters at a polling site in the Cincinnati suburb of Anderson Township, a heavily Republican area.

He said he was so disappointed that he voted only on local issues, not in the presidential primary.

"It is a painful process this year," he said. "I don't like the way the Republicans have gone after each other, and the Democrats aren't any better."

Ohioans are used to their state, with its geographic and economic diversity, being closely watched in elections. No Republican nominee has reached the White House without carrying the swing state. Obama carried the state in 2008, after the state went for George W. Bush in 2004.

Lying between Romney's native Michigan and Santorum's home state of Pennsylvania, Ohio appeared to be a toss-up in recent polls.

Polls have tracked voter volatility among Ohio Republicans, and late polls also indicated that significant numbers of likely Ohio primary voters said they might change their minds once they were casting their ballots.
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 04:19 pm
Polls close in VT, VA and GA at 7 ET; in OH at 7:30 and MA, OK and TN at 8. NPR will have results beginning @ 8 which I can listen to while continuing to use my computer to do other stuff.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 04:33 pm
@realjohnboy,
is today stupid tuesday?

I hadn't been paying that close of attention.

and what did you do to make waterboy disappear?
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 06:59 pm
@Rockhead,
I had nothing to do with chasing H20 away, I hope. It is not my style in running this thread.
I am about to go over to NPR to listen to the results.
Gingrich wins in GA as expected.
But across my screen comes a report that in VA, Romney has 81K (59%) of the vote vs 56K (41%) for Paul. That can't be right.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 07:59 pm
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/s320x320/432184_3024226881901_1149611605_32408416_39051501_n.jpg
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 08:42 pm
@Joe Nation,
Santorum likely prolongs the race with popular vote leads in OH, TN, OK and ND.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 09:00 pm
@realjohnboy,
Mitt offers some feint praise for his Repub opponents and attacks Obama at great length. He promises to cut taxes for everyone and, and, everyone will get a free pony.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 09:08 pm
@realjohnboy,
Romney has an amusing slip: "We are going to get (Obama) out of the outhouse."
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 09:14 pm
@Joe Nation,
******* classic

Cycloptichorn
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 09:18 pm
Wow, Santorum looks like he's going to pull out a win in OH after all. That would be really big for him.

The next 10 days:

KS (caucus) MS AL HI MO (caucus).

Romney will be lucky to win any of those.

Cycloptichorn
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 09:31 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
65% of the precincts in in OH. Santorum ahead by 15,000 votes. Too close to call as some pro-Romney areas still to report.
I can stay awake for only another half-hour or so.
Scouring through the exit polls, Romney, in my mind, has some troubling numbers.
Gingrich, meanwhile, is toast. But he probably will hang on as long as he has money coming in from the Vegas guy. But the writing should be on the wall.
realjohnboy
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 10:18 pm
@realjohnboy,
Bedtime for this redneck. 89% of OH vote in and Romney is up by about 4,o00 votes. He and Santorum will claim tomorrow to have won Super Tuesday.
I think Santorum can make the stronger case.
See you all tomorrow.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 10:20 pm
@realjohnboy,
Dang, looks like Romney will win OH after all. It's proportional, so it doesn't really matter much... but it would have been a nice boost for Santy if he had pulled off the vote win.

Cycloptichorn
parados
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 10:38 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
In Ohio, it seems Santorum wasn't on the ballot in all Congressional Districts so he would get fewer delegates even if he won the state outright. "not on the ballot" may be the wrong term. It may be that he didn't field a full slate of delegates so won't get all the delegates a simple count of the votes would give him.
parados
 
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Reply Tue 6 Mar, 2012 10:57 pm
@parados,
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/03/06/santorums-ohio-handicap/
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sozobe
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2012 07:09 am
My takeaway from yesterday:

While it wasn't a clear win for Santorum, he gained more than Romney, and Romney lost more than Santorum. I don't mean delegates, I mean narrative, optics, momentum, that sort of thing,

Romney did not seal anything up. Santorum did not run away with anything.

But Santorum showed that he really can win, and I think that's powerful in this particular race. People don't like Romney but they swallow hard and vote for him because they don't like Obama and want him out, and think that Romney is their best chance at that.

They tend to like Santorum more, but worry he's too fringe-y and unelectable.

So the more electable he looks, the more they're likely to go ahead and vote for him.

In that one respect, I'm reminded somewhat of Obama in 2008. People liked him but didn't think he could win... and then he started winning.

The big difference is that I don't think Santorum can stand up to close scrutiny. The guy's a nutball, and his opposition to contraception is deadly among women.

I still think Romney will end up being the nominee, unless he tanks really spectacularly (which could happen).

But this definitely puts some wind in Santorum's sails, and that's a good thing from my perspective.

Meanwhile, I loved Sarah Palin's little tease on CNN, sure, if there's a brokered convention, and her people put in her name for consideration, that'd be fine. Sure. No problem.
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revelette
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2012 07:31 am
I quit watching it around 9 I think, and at the time, the narrative was that Santorum was going to win Ohio.

I think it is the contraceptive factor for Santorum which would keep him from winning the nomination and failing that, the presidency. At least I dearly hope so.

Quote:
According to exit polling in Ohio, Romney won 45 percent of the vote of those making more than $100,000 a year, while Santorum had the stronger showing among those with lower incomes: He won a plurality of those earning between $50,000 and $100,000. Romney also won slightly more votes among women.

People who identified themselves as white evangelical Christians represented 46 percent of the Ohio electorate. Within that group, Santorum won 46 percent and Romney 30 percent.

Catholic Voters

Among Catholics -- 33 percent of the Ohio vote -- Romney won 43 percent, compared with 31 percent for Santorum, who is Catholic.

Santorum won a plurality of those who haven’t attended college, while Romney won a plurality of those who had a college degree or higher level of education.

Romney won almost half of the vote of those 65 years of age and older, a group that represented about a quarter of the Ohio turnout. Santorum outperformed Romney among those under 49 and younger.

Almost a third of Ohio’s voters described themselves as “very” conservative, and Santorum won roughly half of that contingent.


source

Kinda pleasantly surprised Romney did as well as he did with the Catholic vote in Ohio.
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2012 07:45 am
The two guys who would easily defeat Bork Obunga are Romney and Gingrich and it looks like it's winding down to the two of them.

Again a debate between Gingrich and Obunga would be a joke, there's almost a hundred point IQ difference between the two of them.
parados
 
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Reply Wed 7 Mar, 2012 08:31 am
@gungasnake,
Quote:
Again a debate between Gingrich and Obunga would be a joke, there's almost a hundred point IQ difference between the two of them.

You've always had a problem telling negative numbers from positive ones.
 

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