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Man's life Over, Cops Decide He Watched Child Porn in First Class

 
 
BillRM
 
  1  
Fri 24 Feb, 2012 06:18 pm
@firefly,
Sorry dear but I am not willing to imposed my sexual tastes on others when no one is harm. I know you can not understand that concept that people had a right to their own sexuality no matter how the mainspring may disapproved of any sub group.

I had in any case seen gay male porn and was sickness by it however I do not see that as an excused not only to ban the material but to send people to prison for even owning it.

I am fairly sure that I would not care for the heavy SM porn that Hawkeye is into and that is illegal in the UK but no matter how distasteful I might find it I do not see any reason to punish owners of such materials as long as all the parties being shown are willing adults.

The only valid reason that CP should be in a class by itself is that real children are being shown being harm and even the very very secondary harm that might be cause by viewing even years after the fact call for some level of punishment.

However when we are talking about fake CP there is no valid justifications for punishing people who own it.
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firefly
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:09 am
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Jacksonville man sentenced again after pleading guilty to possessing child pornography
February 28, 2012

A 35-year-old Jacksonville man has been sentenced to 11 1/2 years in federal prison after he pleaded guilty to possession of child-pornography images on a cell phone while on supervised release for a prior sex offense, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office.

U.S. District Judge Marcia Morales Howard sentenced Scott Brandon Heath on Monday to the prison time, plus 15 years of supervised release. Heath had been arrested March 14, six years after he had been convicted of transportation of child pornography. He had been sentenced to 6 1/2 years in federal prison, followed by three years of supervised release, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office.

According to court documents, two federal probation officers went to Heath’s home March 8 for a routine inspection after his release from prison on Sept. 23, 2010. They found cell phone with about 5,000 images of minors engaged in sexually explicit conduct on it.
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-02-28/story/jacksonville-man-sentenced-again-after-pleading-guilty-possessing-child#ixzz1nkhYP23g
BillRM
 
  0  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 09:30 am
@firefly,
My my for having pictures/videos even a repeat offender we should tied up a prison cell for 11 years more at as cost of roughly 300,000 dollars!

All in all we will have this man in prison for 17 years at a cost of over 425 thousands.

He would had likely been better off being a rapist even of children or a bank robber or even a second degree murderer then having illegally computer files as far as likely time serve for such crimes.

We are an insane society where all commonsense is let far far behind.

In the mean time in spite of such harsh punishments anyone can download any common p2p software for free and doing a fast search with such key words such as young and sex can see many files listed that claimed to be CP being openly offer for sharing.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 09:44 am
@BillRM,
All this coming from a man who believes a Texas court should be allowed to execute someone before examining DNA evidence that could exonerate him.
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firefly
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 10:21 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
In the mean time in spite of such harsh punishments anyone can download any common p2p software for free and doing a fast search with such key words such as young and sex can see many files listed that claimed to be CP being openly offer for sharing.

So, that's how you obtain your child pornography?

The method you describe is how the feds track and find the people who possess this material.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 11:03 am
@firefly,
Quote:
So, that's how you obtain your child pornography?

The method you describe is how the feds track and find the people who possess this material.


Still trying to claim that anyone who dare to disagree with you on the subject have CP themselves!

No dear I get my CP from trading with the majority of Federal judges who also do not agree with you in having such harsh punishments guidelines for this misdeed.

As far as using p2p to track traders yes indeed when ever law enforcement wish to bail out the ocean with a tea spoon they can get a judge to subpoena a IP address and raid someone home.

Of course every now and then they will end up with a completely innocent family held at gun point on the floor due to their network being hack into from the outside or even in one case I know of the ISP giving out the wrong user address to the police.

We surely do not care about real children being terrorized by having their family home front door being broken down in the early morning hours by arm men and their parent being held at gun point.

Strange also that law enforcement love to act without any showing to that affect that serving possible CP collectors with search warrants are high risk and in the same class as doing a raid on a drug house that they used such overkill in searching for CP and serving search warrants.



firefly
 
  3  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 11:13 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
Strange also that law enforcement love to act without any showing to that affect that CP collectors are high risk

Oh, they have reason to consider child pornography collectors to be a risk to children.
A recent study found that 85% of those incarcerated for child porn admitted they had actually molested a child, even though these crimes had never been reported.

Many crimes of child molestation, as well as all other types of sexual assaults, go unreported.

And, in the Rape thread, you just supported/approved of father/child incest. Along with your handy tips on how to obtain child porn, and how to encrypt your computer, plus your trip to the park with kittens to engage the children there, you continually reveal indications of pedophilic tendencies. So, don't play innocent when someone says you sound like a pedophile.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 11:57 am
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
you continually reveal indications of pedophilic tendencies. So, don't play innocent when someone says you sound like a pedophile.



Exactly, he seems to be under the illusion that because he hasn't actually confessed to anything, nobody should question his motives.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 12:30 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Oh, they have reason to consider child pornography collectors to be a risk to children.


I can disagree with the above however that is completely beside the point in whether serving search warrants on possible CP collectors call for swat teams and breaking in doors in the early morning hours.

Talk about emotional harm on children in having their homes invaded in such a manner and their parents laying on the floor at gun point.

Quote:
you just supported/approved of father/child incest


Odd dear queen of liars as the words I used in the rape thread is as far as adults are concern incest is the private business of the adults involved.

Nothing was said in the support of the abused of children in a sexual manner by anyone be that abuser a stranger or a father, brother, sister, mother, or whoever.

In fact queen of liars here is my words from the rape thread that you are claiming I am supporting child rape by fathers.........

Quote:
LOL I love how Firefly drill to the moral point in question however incest between adults should be plenty must a private matter between the parties.
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:18 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
. . . In fact queen of liars here is my words from the rape thread that you are claiming I am supporting child rape by fathers.........

BillRM wrote:
LOL I love how Firefly drill to the moral point in question however incest between adults should be plenty must a private matter between the parties.

1. In my opinion, it does not help anything
to call someone "queen of liars".

2. Bill, if u 'd leave out all those mistakes,
it 'd be a lot easier to figure out what it IS that u wanna say.

It is beyond my ability to understand what u have in your quote.





David
izzythepush
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:22 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Dave, Bill talks about the rights of child porographers with the same passion and enthusiasm you write about gun ownership. It's inconceivable to think that you have never fired a gun. I don't have to say any more.
BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:31 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
David she the queen of liars and what do you not understand as it seem clear that my position on incest between adults have nothing to do with a father raping his child.

An adults brother and sister, an adults uncle and niece , even an adults offspring and mother or father having sexual congress should be a private matter between the parties involved.

Now tell me where Firefly could honestly get the idea that I was supporting family child rape from any of those postings??!!!!?????

The words adults was used over and over and over again in relation to my comments/postings on incest.

She is indeed the queen of liars.
firefly
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:35 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Now tell me where Firefly could honestly get the idea that I was supporting family child rape from any of those postings??!!!!?????

Possibly because your posts were in support of Hawkeye's comment that father/daughter incest is fine if the girl is over 15, and that the state should butt out.

What you said was...
Quote:
Hawkeye Firefly wish to be the sex czar of this nation and only sex acts she approve of and preform in a manner she approve of by people she approve of should be legal.


That indicates you think it should be legal for a father to have sex with his minor daughter, since you are criticizing me. A 16 year old is a minor.

And, neither you nor Hawkeye seem to realize that the power difference allows a father to manipulate a daughter of that age into an incestuous relationship.

You were condoning child sexual abuse. Same way you seemed to approve of Traci Lords performances in porn movies at the age of 16.





DrewDad
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:39 pm
@BillRM,
OK, let's start with the basics....

Define "adult."
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BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:46 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
If you are going to question my used of the title of queen of liars for Firefly where are you on the following subjects?

David where is your comments/postings condemning Firefly charming habit of trying to paint anyone who dare to disagree with her on the CP thread as a pedophile and CP collector?

Where is your comments over her trying to claimed that I must be an abuser of alcohol and a person who drive under the influence because I dare to disagree with her on the DUI thread?

Sorry I am tired of this queen of liars even taking a statement clearly concerning adults having incestal relationships and trying to claimed that I am supporting the raping of a child by his or her father.
firefly
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 01:56 pm
@BillRM,
You are deliberately trying to confuse the issue.

My comments about you, with regard to child porn and alcohol abuse/drunk driving, have nothing to do with disagreeing with you about an issue.

The conclusions I have drawn are based solely on comments you have made about yourself. You don't realize how much you reveal about yourself. And I'm not the only one drawing such conclusions about you.
FOUND SOUL
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 02:01 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
No dear I get my CP from trading with the majority of Federal judges who also do not agree with you in having such harsh punishments guidelines for this misdeed.


Corruption of champions !
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BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 02:02 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Possibly because your posts were in support of Hawkeye's comment that father/daughter incest is fine if the girl is over 15, and that the state should butt out.


Sorry dear but my postings stand alone and are not part of Hawkeye postings.

Quote:
That indicates you think it should be legal for a father to have sex with his minor daughter, since you are criticizing me. A 16 year old is a minor.


Once more you came to that conclusion out of thin air not from any of my words in any of my postings.

Quote:
power difference allows a father to manipulate a daughter of that age into an incestuous relationship.


There have never been a relationship in the history of the world where the power balance is right at the equal point.

However I never express an opinion or support a 16 year old female and her father having sex and once more I used the word adult over and over and over.

In fact off hand I had not gotten the impression that Hawkeye would support such sexual relationships but unlike you I am not going to speak for him out of thin air.

The gray areas would come from say a 15/16 year of girl and a 17-18 years old brother having sex not a 40 years old father and a 15/16 years old daughter having sex and I rightly or wrongly gotten the impression that Hawkeye was addressing that issue.

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firefly
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 02:06 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
No dear I get my CP from trading with the majority of Federal judges who also do not agree with you in having such harsh punishments guidelines for this misdeed.

Are you now claiming you acquire your child pornography though trading with federal judges? Laughing

Well, that's certainly a novel way to get it. And it would explain why those judges don't approve of harsh sentencing guidelines.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Wed 29 Feb, 2012 02:11 pm
@firefly,
Ok reading Hawkeye postings on the other thread once more he stated he does not care as long as all parties are over 15 or so and all I can say is that I do not agree completely with all of Hawkeye positions.

None of the above however give you any license to make up positions for me that I had never taken out of thin air.

Hawkeye and I are not the same person.
 

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