I agree with you....You can never change anyone's thinking...And all everyone is doing, is giving their own opinions...Or beliefs....
It seems that there are some beautiful women in Australia and they too will often take people as they see them.
All is well Ryan I hope the same for you.
Morning Spades Smile Actually, that's a bit out of context on my behalf, you can certainly change someones thinking absolutely.. You can't necessarily change someones belief, if their belief is so strong.. We think all the time, backwards and forwards, it's part of what we are made up of.
I think if you are open minded and your belief is not 100%? That is where you can change someones thinking. But, at what cost. ie) Because what they stated had proof, facts? Or, because what they stated rang true for some reason and it's a better thing to believe, or because something occured in their lives that makes them question.
Krumple in my experience?
It is called attention seeking.. Wanting acknowledgement, needing love, feeling lost attention seeking. You say she was 13 at the time of her story.. I wonder what happened to her at 13 that she needed to use this to get attention
Sometimes you have to think deeper.
The problem is her story was used in a movie which claims all the stories in this movie are true. She lied. Hundreds of thousands of people saw this movie would assume what she said was true but her story is filled with lies. This is a problem. Not only that but she sells books telling her lies even more. It is more than just attention seeking when you pollute society with stories that are not true.
So, are you saying, that you deny, the holocaust happened, because of this, one case? Or potential cases, like it? Where people are being fraudulent and know they are...(if it is true) opposed to the amount of evidence that says it happened?...And what people, actually experienced, is true?
So, are you saying, that you deny, the holocaust happened, because of this, one case?
This is the thing. People quickly assume that I am a holocaust denier because I question the validity of the numbers and how some died. I have never claimed to be nor would I consider myself one yet I get branded one as soon as I say things don't add up. I never said there weren't massive deaths but I question the way in which those victims died.
You just like the rest of them have no idea what you are talking about. Why not go over to the thread and actually find out where I stand before you say that I "deny" the holocaust happened. Before you build up a bunch of strawmen and attack a position in which I do not hold.
reasoning logic wrote:Ryan please take a little more time to read this thread of yours because you will see that there is a quote from Krumple that answered your question a few pages back.
OK sorry...In what exact way do you believe they died? Do you believe that millions, did not die, the way we know, because of what this woman has said, and done? With "maybe" 50 others, who "may" be doing the same thing?
Given your bashing over there, and the type of person I am, why would I have written what I wrote here, over there for you to be more bashed, if they chose to?
At least I took the time , alot of time, to read what your case was against there.
Also, with the woman who claimed all these things that happened to her at 13, which you have stated are false and she is writing books on it, making $$$ perhaps she still was an attention seeker that then got fame and you know what fame can do in regards to "going to your head" greed comes into it... If this was the case? Then there should be a whole lot of places telling everyone she is bogus, reports even and sites pulling down her material or publishes reneging on further publications.. Do you know for certain it's lies? Do you want to link her here.
Spades, it's true. I was purely answering you of my thoughts on Krumple that she is not evil and how I would approach someone like that, consequently I had to read what she was writing to try to see how I felt and then reply to you. That is the purpose of why I wrote about that particular thread here, nothing more..
Krumple is correct though, take the time instead of questioning and read what someone is saying, cause they always bite you in the bum in you don't
I will tell you why! They are both messengers of God. That is correct I am God and I am telling you that you need to start questioning everything that you thought I was. Evil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad
Then there should be a whole lot of places telling everyone she is bogus, reports even and sites pulling down her material or publishes reneging on further publications.. Do you know for certain it's lies? Do you want to link her here.
Part of the problem is that I wasn't going to originally but even after I did present my case the main person calling me out didn't even take the time to look over my claims and just continued pretending that I had no argument
Sure I'll take some time and provide it for you but you know what is going to happen? The discussion will ultimately end up over here if I do.
There are a lot of subjects that I tackle and some of them tend to cross which doesn't look very good because it makes me look as if I have some discriminatory hatred but I don't. I just want to shed light on spots of inaccuracies or false data. But I get branded as being racist or have some anger towards a particular group because some things overlap.
Thank you for pointing this out again. I think it is something that is neglected a lot on this board and would like to keep reminding people that this is one of the major problems.
What if, at 13, you aren't Adult enough to think like an Adult. You view things a little differently, you go with feeling in your explanation rather than 100% facts plus add in fear and being pushed into people, why? The fear alone of that, could easily make a 13 year old girl even forget some things and in trying to remember gets it wrong. That makes complete sense to me. I thought you were meaning that she blatantly lied for 1) attention or 2) money. It seems it's more to do with occurance and how it could or could not have been that way. What if it was more to do with the above? Fear and youth as apposed to lying?
People have motivations and impost their fears or discrimination into their stories.
She has written books and many thousands of people read her books and assume that her words are truthful to actual events. This is problematic and dangerous.