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God, Religion, & the Bible

 
 
JPB
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 10:04 am
@Arella Mae,
Usually that's because they reject the "inspired by God" premise. If you read three conflicting accounts of a news story you make up your own mind as to which one most represents the facts. Those who don't believe in the bible as representing the inerrant Word of God are doing just that.
Thomas
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 10:15 am
@Arella Mae,
Arella Mae wrote:
Jesus quoted from the OT quite often.

He also felt free to ignore plenty of Old-Testament teachings, such as the prohibition against working on the Sabbath. And he always refers to what we call "the Old Testament" as "the law", or "it has been written that", or something like this. I can't find any verse in any of the four gospels stating that Jesus considered the Old Testament to be the word of God. Hence, Jesus himself arguably didn't "believe" in the Bible in any religious sense, even though he did believe in God.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 10:18 am
@Thomas,
Sorry Thomas, I'm not going to get into a big debate about this. You have every right to what you believe and I have every right to believe as I believe. After yesterday, the last thing I want is any kind of dissension.
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 10:19 am
@JPB,
JPB wrote:

Usually that's because they reject the "inspired by God" premise. If you read three conflicting accounts of a news story you make up your own mind as to which one most represents the facts. Those who don't believe in the bible as representing the inerrant Word of God are doing just that.


It's their right. I have no problem with it.
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Thomas
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 10:20 am
@Arella Mae,
Sorry Arella, but if you offer your opinion in a public forum, I'm going to answer it if I want to. If you don't want to answer back, then don't. Fine with me.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 10:21 am
@Miller,
How do you know they were "inspired by god?" Because some human told you as much?
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sun 10 Jul, 2011 10:21 am
@Thomas,
I surely don't mean to offend you, Thomas. I probably shouldn't be posting on A2K today. Had a bad thing happen here yesterday and I am not over it yet. Please forgive me.
Fido
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 09:13 am
@Arella Mae,
Arella Mae wrote:

I surely don't mean to offend you, Thomas. I probably shouldn't be posting on A2K today. Had a bad thing happen here yesterday and I am not over it yet. Please forgive me.
I'll forgive you; if he won't... Best to you..
Miller
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 06:19 pm
If you're interested in the literature of the Hebrew Bible, please search out the books of Prof. James Kugel, former professor at Harvard University, now living
in Israel.
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Miller
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 06:23 pm
@Setanta,
I think they were inspired by the "Divine". In other words, these authors may have had a mystical experience, which played a role in their writing. They were inspired by this experience, just as most authors are inspired in their writings by their memories and their experiences ( which may or may not be mystical).
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Miller
 
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Reply Mon 11 Jul, 2011 06:24 pm
@Fido,
Fido wrote:

Arella Mae wrote:

I surely don't mean to offend you, Thomas. I probably shouldn't be posting on A2K today. Had a bad thing happen here yesterday and I am not over it yet. Please forgive me.
I'll forgive you; if he won't... Best to you..


I'll forgive both of you...
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harddisk01
 
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Reply Thu 14 Jul, 2011 12:22 pm
@wayne,
God,Region,Bible are all Holly we love this.becoz we are religious ......God bless u all.....
jovie
 
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Reply Sat 23 Jul, 2011 06:32 am
@harddisk01,
You know who wrote


"Physically disabled are all AC's







"Depend's on which god?


? you ?


? all of them ?


? !used! ?


Salvation Army and Thee President' Mrs. Dole of The Thee blood supply


"Spike's a funny dog,,, rub his bottom and make eye contact and he'll take care of fkn' everything. Spike has seperation anxiety,,, it like this to be Spike -


Alll the time run's to the door !A HOUSE?

"You betcha AC


Amen
.



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forum2cos
 
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Reply Sun 7 Aug, 2011 11:28 am
@cletrusrichard,
I BELIEVE IN GOD.....ALSO RELIGION......THANKS AUTHOR
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mcdjewell
 
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Reply Mon 4 Jun, 2012 06:36 pm
@cletrusrichard,
why would it be. the bible is a book and a guide as to how to live. all of the bible is translated by MAN and edited to make you believe waht King James believed.
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RonPrice
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 04:24 am
@cletrusrichard,
As far as believing in The Bible is concerned, you might find this prose-poem I wrote today of value. This won't resolve your problem, but it may contribute to your understanding.-Ron Price, Australia
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THE OLD TESTAMENT and ME

The Hebrew Bible, called The Old Testament by Christians, is an extraordinarily difficult sequence of books.1 This difficulty, too easily underestimated, is greater now than it ever was, partly because no contemporary reader, however specialized, shares in the psychology of the original readers and writers of The Bible. The first millennium in which anyone read any of the words in any of the books from 1000 B.C. to the time of Christ or, perhaps more accurately, 600 B.C. to 400 A.D.2

My first memories of The Old Testament come from Bible readings in grade six when I was 11 and my mother reading passages from little booklets from the Unity School of Christianity as early as the mid-1950s. Although some of the quotations had a broad ethical appeal to me even as a boy in my late childhood and early teens, I found the stories abstruse and distant: goats, sheep, tribes, and curious names like Balthazar and Nebuchadnezzar. They all occupied another universe far removed from my little town of 5000 in Ontario in that post-WW2 world of the 1950s. This distance existed then, as it does now, nearly 60 years later.

My individual understanding of The Bible, my biblical interpretations, rely primarily at the age of nearly 70 on my experience of nearly 60 years of intimate association with the Baha’i Faith. My interpretations and those of the Baha’i teachings are provocative, if nothing else. But I have always found there to be a vast distance from the psychic universe of the biblical writers beginning as early as, say, 900 B.C.2 and the contemporary society that is my world. I know I have lots of company; indeed I rarely meet anyone who actually reads The Old Testament any more.

However abstruse the language of biblical prophecy and eschatology, the prophets of The Old Testament, I believe, were given a foreknowledge of the events of our times in their visions, visions which I’m sure they hardly understood themselves. Still, there lies a sure presentation of the times we are living-through, as long as one does not take those prophecies literally.

Yahweh's choice of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and their descendants as part of the Chosen People story was a permanent decision, intended to prevail into a time without boundaries, into our time.-Ron Price with thanks to 1Harold Bloom, “Prose and Poetry,” in The New York Times, 17 October, 1982: a review of Dan Jacobson’s THE STORY OF THE STORIES: The Chosen People and Its God, and 2the final editor, or redactor, after the return from the Babylonian Exile in the 6th century BC, put all the books of The Old Testament into something like their present form.3

When this review appeared in1
The New York Times I had just
arrived in Australia’s Northern
Territory & the heat of summer
was just beginning to make me
run for cover to air-conditioning
in my office, home and the cool
air of the car. The Old Testament
was on my universe’s periphery.

There it had always been in heat and
cold since those first stories when I
was in grade six in that little town in
Ontario’s Golden Horseshoe where
everyone I knew was Catholic or Jew
or Protestant, or nothing; yes, mostly
nothing and there they have remained
with that Old Testament far removed
from everyone’s everyday life. Still…

I have time now to try to get into it in
this the evening of my life; however
complex and abstruse it may be, I want
to make-up for the decades when it had
to remain far out on my life’s periphery.

1 Harold Bloom, “Prose and Poetry,” in The New York Times, 17 October, 1982: a review of Dan Jacobson’s THE STORY OF THE STORIES: The Chosen People and Its God.
3 See Frank Kermode, “God Speaks Through His Women,” in The New York Times, 23 September 1990: a review of Harold Bloom’s The Book of J.

Ron Price
5 July 2012





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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jul, 2012 04:33 am
Shut up, Ron.
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