Interesting read, Talk, but what about the high Finnish percentage of a particular "L" Y haplotype subclave (I believe the Finns are considered the source for this one)? Considering that Finland was deservedly declared "the best place in the world to live" by Newsweek in December, 2010, and that the Finns have scored #1 across the board (three different skill areas) in recent international education/intelligence tests for college age students, would you not think their gene-pool demands serious consideration?! BTW: I have no relationship whatsoever with Finland or the Finns -- I just can't help but admire peoples who exhibit, en masse, exceptional abilities, and I'm always a little curious about their genetic makeup. rebecca
MISTAKE!! I made a MISTAKE!! Apologies to Finns -- it's an "N" Y-chromosome subclave that's their benchmark (and of which they presently seem the most likely source population), not an "L".
As I previously stated (correctly, I think), I'm in no way related to the Finns. Blame my MISTAKE on my genes. My particular genotype (the common U.S. "Atlantic Modal", Scot or "Scotch-Irish", Norman English, peppered with Norse and German) usually comes in third to Finns and Japanese on international tests of "smarts".
As for the Aryan issue in this thread, my latest understanding is that the geneticists and archeogeneticists (what an exciting new field) are almost daily breaking down previous classifications, and that there is no consensus at present time what exactly many labels, like "Aryan" or "Celtic", mean, if anything. At least genetically.
Notes to the above:
1) My last understanding was that the Finn gene modal is partially European-type and partially Altaic-Uralic-Baltic-whatever type? But presently classified as an "isolate" because of their unusual source "N" subclave? I'm not clear on the particulars.
2) Re: my above reference to "smarts" testing of the Japanese. When pure I.Q. (sans education and culture) was tested, the Japanese were included, I think, in a broader section which included some other East Asian peoples, but I'm not clear which other peoples were included in that group. Apologies -- I'm shamefully ignorant about East Asia peoples.