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US agents ok gun sales to Mexican drug cartels

 
 
parados
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jun, 2012 03:26 pm
@oralloy,
Precisely my point. There are cheaper and more local ways for the drug cartels to get guns than going to Russia.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 26 Jun, 2012 04:46 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Do u accept the reasoning of Barron v. Baltimore??
I sure don't; it was an insult to the intelligence
and contrary to common understanding at the time.

In any case, it was repudiated by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment,
with overthrowing the Barron case explicitly in mind.
We know this from the mouth of its author,
Representative John Bingham testifying in Congress March 31st, 1871.


I'm not very familiar with the case, but the Fourteenth Amendment makes it moot, especially since the Supreme Court has now incorporated the Second Amendment.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jun, 2012 04:16 pm
@oralloy,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Do u accept the reasoning of Barron v. Baltimore??
I sure don't; it was an insult to the intelligence
and contrary to common understanding at the time.

In any case, it was repudiated by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment,
with overthrowing the Barron case explicitly in mind.
We know this from the mouth of its author,
Representative John Bingham testifying in Congress March 31st, 1871.

oralloy wrote:
I'm not very familiar with the case,
The Barron case 32 U.S. (7 Pet.) 243 (1833),
is the one wherein the USSC repudiated the Bill of Rights,
except insofar as it restrains the federal government,
leaving the citizens exposed to any tyrannical abuses from
State or local governments, despite the text of the Bill of Rights itself.

In effect, in Barron the USSC assumes that
the Constitution does NOT mean what it says in plain writing;
it means whatever the USSC SAYS that it says.

This was rejected and overthrown by Section 1 of the 14th Amendment,
but the USSC fought back with The Slaughterhouse cases 83 U.S. 36 (1873).
essentially restoring the despised Barron v. Baltimore.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Wed 27 Jun, 2012 09:17 pm
The truth about the Fast and Furious scandal
http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06/27/fast-and-furious-truth/
oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 8 Jul, 2012 12:49 am
@RexRed,
RexRed wrote:


It's a shame that BATF guy is having his career damaged by lies spewed by troublemakers within his organization. Hopefully he'll come out of this OK.

That said, this issue is useful for keeping the Obama Administration on the defense. So long as the issue continues to simmer in the background, Obama will not be making a renewed attempt to violate our Constitutional gun rights, and will definitely not be using the "US guns flowing to Mexican cartels" fallacy to try to justify the violation of our rights.
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 9 Jul, 2012 11:31 pm
Feds reveal more charges in murder tied to 'Fast and Furious'
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/09/12644155-feds-reveal-more-charges-in-murder-tied-to-fast-and-furious?lite
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