American was and is based on Individualism, not collectivism.
Another of the same. In truth, America is - and always has been - a mix of both collectivism AND individualism.
Unless you're putting out your own fires, policing your own neighborhood, and inspecting your own food for safety,
I'm sure you'll agree with me.
Your certainty is unjustfied
Historical fact does not support u, Cy.
The earlier fire departments were private, volunteer social clubs.
Maybe, with research, u can find some early government-based
fire dept. I don't know of any.
As for POLICE
, there were none in the early US.
The concept was feared n despised as a threat to liberty;--
"a standing army" the Founding Generation called the idea.
The first police dept. in the USA was that of New Orleans
purchased from the French in 1803. Depending on how
u look at it, either Boston or New York City was next,
the latter getting into business in 1845. Before then,
there were private nite watchmen.
This was NOT the philosophy of the Founders.
Thay 'd have found the views of the Kennedys etc. to be anathema.
While all are entitled to their opinion, I can rest comfortably knowing that the courts agree with me, and not with you.
I suspect you have no explanation for why this is.
U suspect rong:
as predicted by the French observer Alexis de Tocqueville,
the poor used democracy as a weapon to elect fellows
to rip off the rich and middle classes,
for the illicit benefit of financially unsuccessful voters.
If that had been the correct interpretation
of Original Constitutional intendment,
then America woud have become a welfare almost immediately.
An assertion unsupported by fact or logic.
There was no socialism inclined government practice before the 1930s,
so far as I 'm aware. If the welfare state had been intended,
as u imply, then it woud have been manifested in the 1700s,
not waiting until the 1930s.
I agree David.
The U.S. Constitution was not originally understood by the Framers, Founding Fathers, or the founding generation, to permit the existence of a federal welfare state. By welfare I am specifically referring to the government act of taxing peoples' income, taking a portion of the taxed income, and giving it directly to someone else, known as redistributing the wealth.
In the Constitutional Convention of 1787, while the Framers debated the substantive content of the U.S. Constitution, a discuss involving the classes in American society transpired. James Madison addressed the convention and said, "In all civilized countries, the people fall into different classes having a real or supposed difference of interests. There will be particularly the distinction of rich and poor."
"The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787, Volume 1," edited by Max Farrand. So, Madison recognized there will inevitably be rich people and poor people in the country. As a result, Madison, understood there would be a day in which the poor may exist in greater numbers than the rich, and as a result, may use the democratic process to take some, most, or all of the property from the rich and redistribute it to the poor.
Madison stated, "An increase of population will of necessity increase the proportion of those who will labour under all the hardships of life, and secretly sigh for a more equal distribution of its blessings.These may in time outnumber those who are placed above the feelings of indigence. According to the equal laws of suffrage, the power will slide into the hands of the former. No agrarian attempts have yet been made in this country, but symptoms of a levelling spirit, as we have understood, have sufficiently appeared in a certain quarters [sic] to give notice of the future danger."
Farrand, Volume 1.
Madison went on to state in the "future times a great majority of the people will not only be without land, but any other sort of property" and as a result the government and constitution must "protect the minority of the opulent against the majority." Farrand, Volume 1. In a letter to Thomas Jefferson Madison commented, "Wherever the real power in a Government lies, there is the danger of oppression. In our Governments the real power lies in the majority of the community, and the invasion of private rights is chiefly to be apprehended, not from acts of Government contrary to the sense of its constituents, but from acts in which the Government is the mere instrument of the major number of the Constituents." Letter from James Madison to Thomas Jefferson, October 1788. http://www.revolutionary-war-and-beyond.com/james-madison-letter-to-thomas-jefferson-october-17-1788.html
Madison wasn't alone in this view. Hamilton expressed the thought of in "every community where industry is encouraged...there will be division of it into the few and the many." "The difference of property is already great amongst us. Commerce and industry will still increase the disparity." Farrand, Volume 1.
Adams, Washington, and a few others concurred in Madison's beliefs and his assessment. The remedy then was to conceive of a government and a constitution which did not authorize redistribution of the wealth and precluded or impeded any such desire by the masses to do so. In fact, Madison's Federalist 10 discusses how the property interest of the few (the rich) is protected from the poor under the new government created in the U.S. Constitution, and how the U.S. Constitution was in part conceived to address this issue.
So, to achieve this goal, the Framers limited the powers of the federal government and did not vest it with the authority to redistribute the wealth. As Madison stated, in characterizing the U.S. Constituiton, “I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents
.” The other steps the Framers took was to make the Senate more independent and detached from the people and have them serve longer terms of office, giving them some immunity for their actions from the populace. As a result, the Senate was originally elected by the state legislatures, as opposed to directly by the people, and they served 6 year terms, although Madison wanted 9 year terms.
So the U.S. Constitution was originally conceived and created to preclude the existence of a federal welfare state.