panzade
 
  2  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 10:34 am
@bobsal u1553115,
Erin has it goin' on...
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 11:13 am
Quote:
Gallup: Uninsured Rate Up Since Obama Elected
Roughly 3.6 million more uninsured since Bush administration.



Burn.
Quote:
If you move the goalposts far enough, you’re sure to score.

Gallup has a fairly honest headline: “In U.S., Uninsured Rate Lowest Since 2008″. But, hm, what happened in 2008? Let’s keep looking at the chart. The low was 14.4 percent, just before the financial crisis. Makes some sense, I’m sure a lot of people lost health insurance then. At the start of the Obama Administration, the rate was 15.6 percent; the peak was 18 percent — in roughly the third quarter of last year. Remember that, when people were objecting because they’d had their insurance canceled? Harry Reid said all those people were lying, but Gallup says different. In fact, 1 percentage point on this chart is, roughly, 3 million people. The change from Q1 to Q3 was about 2 percent — or roughly 6 million people who became uninsured.
http://cdn.pjmedia.com/tatler/files/2014/04/gallup-insurance.png
Where have I heard that number before?

And now for the punchline: Since Obama was inaugurated in 2008, the net change is from 15.4 percent uninsured to 15.6 percent. So the net effect has been that by the Gallup Survey the number of uninsured has improved in the last year, but gotten worse since Obama was inaugurated, and is 1.2 percent worse than under Bush.


http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2014/04/08/gallup-uninsured-rate-up-since-obama-elected/

There are some numbers for you.
parados
 
  2  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 11:24 am
@coldjoint,
Obama was inaugurated in 2008? You gottta love the RW sites that make up stuff and Pinkie just pastes it here without checking any facts.

The math is all wrong too.
The US had 313 million people in 2012. 23% were under the age of 18. That means 241 million were 18 or older.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

1% of that is 2.41 million not the 3 million and 2% is less than 5 million. But the author uses 2% instead of the 1.7% that the chart actually shows. 1.7% of 241 is only 4.1 million.

I guess if you move the goal posts you can score with RWers. They like it when you are off by 50% or more.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 11:49 am
@parados,
Quote:
They like it when you are off by 50% or more.


That still leaves more uninsured people than under Bush.
parados
 
  2  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 12:10 pm
@coldjoint,
It also leaves more people working than under Bush.
Baldimo
 
  0  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 12:17 pm
@parados,
False. The over all workforce participation rate is the lowest it has been in in over a decade. Total unemployment is still above 12% if you include those who have stopped looking for work.

http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101398855

Things are not as good as you would like to think they are.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 12:17 pm
@parados,
Quote:
It also leaves more people working than under Bush.


Changing the subject? That was an example of how numbers can be manipulated to make the loser in chief look good.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 04:23 pm
Holder owned.

Quote:
HOLDER: No, no, I would disagree in the sense that, taking into account resource constraints, it is incumbent upon those of us in the executive branch to make the maximum use of the resources that Congress gives to us. That necessarily means we’re always making choices about the kinds of cases we bring, how we deal with cases we bring…

GOWDY: But you’re already expending the resources of the prosecution or you and I wouldn’t be having the question. This is all about sentencing. I have no qualms if you say I’m gonna decline prosecution. You have an unfettered right to do that.

What I’m saying is you don’t have the right to say, in mandatory minimum cases, don’t tell the grand jury what the drug amount is.


Quote:
Holder believe his ‘discretion’ gives him the power to ignore the law as long as he can cite ‘resources’ as the excuse. This is exactly the argument Obama is using regarding deportation of illegals. They ignore congressional law and claim they don’t have the resources needed to fully enforce the law. In reality they are pushing their own agendas which, in this case, is trying to keep minorities out of prison even when drug amounts are severe enough that the law demands prison time.

I would add that Holder also seems fairly outmatched in this debate with Gowdy, as he confuses prosecution and sentencing. Not only does Gowdy expose Holder’s motives, he also exposes what a light weight Holder is when it comes to defending his lawlessness.


More manipulation and more excuses for pushing an agenda. Which is not the duty of any government agency.


http://therightscoop.com/gowdy-you-dont-have-discretion-on-whether-to-follow-the-law-or-not-holder-i-disagree/
hawkeye10
 
  0  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 04:43 pm
@coldjoint,
All of those cheering idiots who got convinced that Obama is the Anti-Bush sure got told. Obama is exactly like Bush in making up what he considers the law as he goes, the separation between Bushes rationalization for engaging in torture and dozens of King Barrack acts is non existent.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 05:51 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
Obama is the Anti-Bush


Judging by the recovery(?) he is the anti-Reagan
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 06:37 pm
Quote:
Congressman refuses to question Holder, suggests he should be in jail…


Quote:
Congressman Blake Farenthold refused to question Holder today, suggesting he should be in jail rather than testifying in front of Congress:

I’m committed to maintaining the Constitutional balance of power and the authority that this legislative branch has, and I just don’t think it’s appropriate that Mr. Holder be here. If an American citizen had not complied with one of the Justice Department’s subpoenas, they would be in jail and not sitting here in front of me, testifying.


Looks like Holder got owned twice.http://www.acidpulse.net/images/smilies/lolol.gif
http://therightscoop.com/congressman-refuses-to-question-holder-suggests-he-should-be-in-jail/
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 06:42 pm
http://i0.wp.com/www.theminorityreportblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Money_Pocket-990.jpg?resize=700%2C357
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parados
 
  3  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 08:15 pm
@coldjoint,
It looks like Farenthold doesn't understand the first thing about separation of powers.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 08:22 pm
@parados,
Quote:
It looks like Farenthold doesn't understand the first thing about separation of powers.


Looks like Holder doesn't either. And I think Farenthold just wanted to insult him. Which is a liberal trick, but payback is Hell.
parados
 
  3  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 08:35 pm
@coldjoint,
It's funny. A Republican insults the Constitution and RWers cheer him on. They really have no understanding of the Constitution they claim to worship.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 08:40 pm
@parados,
Quote:
no understanding of the Constitution

The only thing Holder and Obama know is how to manipulate the Constitution. And he insulted Holder not the Constitution. I told you to peddle your bullshit somewhere else
anonymously99
 
  0  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 08:40 pm
@parados,
I don't think anyone worships the constitution.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 08:43 pm
@anonymously99,
Quote:
I don't think anyone worships the constitution.


Give him a break, he works from a script.
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bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 09:03 pm
Are you watching Rachel A2Kers - down goes that fugger Bill Kramer from Wisconsin
Oops charged with felony sexual assault criminal charges
http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/0f039586a554417d90612de3de871f2e/US--Wisconsin-Assembly-Kramer
<snip>
Prosecutors charged former Wisconsin Assembly Majority Leader Bill Kramer on Friday with sexually assaulting a political aide three years ago following a Republican mixer.

Kramer is charged with two counts of second-degree felony sexual assault. He faces up to $200,000 in fines and 80 years in prison if convicted on both charges. He is due to make an initial court appearance on April 14.

According to the criminal complaint, the woman told police earlier this month that Kramer shoved her against her car outside the mixer, tried to kiss her and groped her breasts. He also assaulted her in her car, telling her he wanted to have sex with her, kissing her and groping her, the woman said.

The complaint said Kramer gave different answers about the incident in a telephone interview with a detective this month.
-----------------------------
Karma is delish - remember how he and his goons destroyed the unions.
Ron Johnson knew and kept silent.
http://cdn1.therepublic.com/smedia/0/f/0f039586a554417d90612de3de871f2e/inline_642175591951.jpg
Love the fugging mug shot.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Tue 8 Apr, 2014 09:15 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Too bad Clinton was never charged for any of his rape charges. I guess it is who you know.
 

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