bicycles threaten our personal freedoms

Nice. Over here we have a retiree fighting tooth and nail (and with 40,000 bucks) the establishments of bike lanes in Arlington, MA. He says they're dangerous. He moved into that town only 3 years ago....

http://www.boston.com/yourtown/arlington/articles/2010/08/08/changing_lanes_not_so_fast/?p1=News_links

HE can be reached . Ill send Pauley Walnuts up there to talk to the jamoke

As fvar as yer bike problem dys, I cant help ya. Those bikes wont last a week, theyll be stripped of their wheels and derailures.
I can see a chop shop business just for bikes.


HA, so we have a bike ad on the page bottom

I would rather that the citzenry come to their own conclusion to purchase a bike and ride it to work or wherever because that's an environmentally safe and economically better decision.

Bet the local bike shops and car dealers are just thrilled with this program.

I don't like government involved in anything much.

Not every community can be pro-all-natural, but Portland, OR, is. This prevailing attitude of pro-nature and anti-technology here very much favors low emissions. During rush hour you can find your car surrounded by bicycles. because bicycles and cars share the road.

I like to bike, but I don't like to bike with cars, and so I don't bike that much.

When I moved to Portland two years ago I could tell the community was serious about green space. The TRIMET transportation network makes it possible to commute long distances via, rail, bus and trolley car.

I've been pondering a bicycle highway system. If there was funding I think it might be considered. Basically the design uses current lamp and sign post construction techniques to create a raise system of tubes that runs above and parallel to roadways. The tubes would be paved with slip resistant material, and covered in mesh to allow light, dissipate heat and repel rain and snow. They would have subway station-esque pull-offs and fast and slow lanes.

As far as the idea of having city bikes that anyone can use. That has been done several times.

As far as joining the UN I'm thinking that many in Portland wouldn't have any problem with that. Some may actually be looking forward to it.

I didn't like bicycling in my area of Los Angeles - I felt like, and might have been right - that some cars liked to come too close. On the other hand, there was the sorely-mourned-after-it-passed (at least by people I knew) - The Dobbins Veloway:

http://www.arroyoseco.org/bike/bikeway.htm



It went from Pasadena to downtown Los Angeles..

Could you not see your way to including fans which ensure a wind in the direction of the industral estates in the mornings and in the direction of the barracks in the late afternoons. And getting them to tilt with the same peiodicity. 5% is about right.

It's obvious you don't bike so much.

I can see how the The Arroyo Seco Bike Path http://www.arroyoseco.org/ArroyoSecoBikepath.htm would be a good idea, but what of flash floods?

lol, you're humorous.

But instead of just nixing the idea how about you tell me how to improve it. Are you a biker, and what would you do if you are?

But more importantly do you want your community to be run by the UN, or not?

I didn't read about the/any newly proposed bike path, as I was remembering the Veloway. (Back in landarch school, we often threw bikepaths into our concept plans..)

Will look at that again. Flash floods? thinking drainage system with possible pumps ($$$) - whadda I know.

One consideration for any design has to be the elimination of bum speed bumps.

and car doors

Is there something in one or another of the posted links that has to do with the UN?

I just read about this. I was going to start a thread. I've just purchased a bicycle, and I've been getting to know all the city trails around my area. This is a big issue in Washington, a city plagued with terrible auto-traffic. I can ride a bike to my girlfriend's (10.7 miles) fast than taking the METRO, but I benefit from the hard work of pedestrians and cyclists before me who had to fight many hard battles with city officials to get more bike friendly paths made.

Some of our bike paths even have free air despensors. How cool is that?

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This is obviously a commie plot (the Chinese all ride bikes right?)

I wasn't nixing the idea. They have fans to extract farts from restaurants and cinemas and other places where people congregate in herds. They use the sort of thing I had in mind for your enclosed tube down mines. I've been down deep mines and there is half a gale blowin' which, simply by altering the angles of the fan blades can be reversed. I know one mine, now closed, which was 3,000 ft deep with over 10 miles of roadway to the coal faces.

In hilly areas ski lifts could be provided for the uphill sections and the downhill parts could be engineered to provide cyclists with the exhilarations one can see on the Tour de France. That would surely encourage cycling.

I'm all for encouraging cycling. And the UN.

We shoud charge rent
to the UN.

I like the Horse Carriages in Denver; very nice.

(I hope I 'm not getting my cities confused.)





David

First they'll take your cars. Then they'll take your fast food. And if you're not careful, they'll take away the fatty deposits in your arteries. It's a pinko plot to keep us all alive. The ruthless fuckers.

Yeah, no wonder that Americans don't want a bike lane - it leads only to temptations. McDonalds always has ample parking spaces, what more do you need?

Actually, just about every major European city has these free bicycle stations
and it's such a convenience. This is in addition to car free zones in inner cities,
unthinkable in the United States - but hopefully not for long.


Personal freedom is only a term used to appease the gun nuts.