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Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Thu 28 Aug, 2014 07:04 am
@nononono,
An interesting fact is that this so call rape crisis and rape culture is occurring at the same time that reported rapes are at a 33 or 34 years low.
nononono
 
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Reply Fri 29 Aug, 2014 04:42 am
@BillRM,
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An interesting fact is that this so call rape crisis and rape culture is occurring at the same time that reported rapes are at a 33 or 34 years low.


PATRIARCHY!!!

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2014 08:12 pm
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The problem of violence against women has received renewed attention since the NFL has been forced to confront a number of domestic abuse problems.

"The fact is from sport leagues to pop culture to politics, our society does not sufficiently value women," Obama said.

Both Obama and Vice President Joe Biden said the problem of sexual assault is not just a women’s issue, and it is up to men to stand up and help protect and support victims of assault. At the White House they announced the launch of the “It’s On Us” campaign, aimed at making schools more accountable and encouraging men to join the cause.

“It is on the parents of young men to teach them respect for women, and on grown men to set an example and be clear on what it means to be a man,” Obama said.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/barack-obama/obama-calls-men-stand-sexual-asssault-n207356

Nicely ignoring that men are very often the victims of sexual assault, and that women are often the abusers. The Professor and his babbling VP should just shut up about social problems, as they are obviously out of touch. Obama should have learned his lesson after his yakking forced him into the face saving Beer Summit in the Rose Garden I think it was, but no.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 21 Sep, 2014 09:04 pm
@hawkeye10,
Here is some more of the craziness that both our young men and women are being put through in colleges.

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http://www.wistv.com/story/26568831/clemson-drops-survey-that-asks-about-students-sex-lives

CLEMSON, SC (WYFF) -
Following criticism from the conservative group, Campus Reform, Clemson University has suspended an online training course that includes a survey in which students are asked about their sex lives.

Thursday afternoon, university officials released a statement saying, "Clemson University has suspended an online Title IX training module to further review the content.

"‘This online course, used by other universities across the country, was selected to be given to undergraduate students this summer and fall as part of a comprehensive effort to prevent sexual discrimination, harassment and assault in response to growing concerns about these incidents on campuses across the nation and to meet federal requirements,' said Shannon Finning, dean of students and associate vice president for Student Affairs.

"We learned of concerns about some anonymous questions in the module for undergraduate students. We have suspended the training until the content is further reviewed and revised to ensure that it meets our goal of making Clemson a safer campus for all students, faculty and staff, while also respecting individual privacy.

"Individual responses to the questions posed during the training are anonymous and cannot be seen by Clemson or the vendor that provided the training module."

The suspension of the course followed an article on posted on campusreform.org that says, "In screenshots obtained exclusively by 'Campus Reform,' the South Carolina university is asking students invasive and personal questions about their drinking habits and sex life as part of what they've billed as an online Title IX training course.

"'How many times have you had sex (including oral) in the last 3 months?' asks one question.

"'With how many different people have you had sex (including oral) in the last 3 months?" asks another.

"In a campus-wide email, the South Carolina university announced that all students, faculty, and staff would be required to complete a mandatory, one-hour long Title IX training course by Nov. 1."


Campus Reform is a project of the Leadership Institute, an organization with a mission statement that says its goal is to "increase the number and effectiveness of conservative activists and leaders in the public policy process."

The statement says in order to accomplish its goals, the Institute identifies, recruits, trains, and places conservatives in government, politics, and the media.

The Leadership Institute says, "As a watchdog to the nation's higher education system, 'Campus Reform' exposes bias and abuse on the nation's college campuses. Our team of professional journalists works alongside student activists and student journalists to report on the conduct and misconduct of university administrators, faculty, and students. 'Campus Reform' holds itself to rigorous journalism standards and strives to present each story with accuracy, objectivity, and public accountability."

Copyright 2014 WYFF. All rights reserved.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2014 12:18 am
@BillRM,
Clemson got a little over ambitious in kissing up the anti men zealots in the Obama admin, lead by Biden.

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The questions were included among other slides related to campus resources and exercises in how to deal with potential scenarios, Finning said. On the whole, the course was intended to address requirements under Title IX to make students aware of resources for dealing with sexual violence and how to report sexual misconduct, she said.
Schools that receive federal funding are required under the Violence Against Women Act to provide sexual violence education to new and returning students and employees. Guidance under Title IX issued by the Office for Civil Rights in 2001 and 2014 also makes clear that schools should be providing educational programs on sexual violence to their student body, said Nancy Chi Cantalupo with the professional group Student Affairs Administrators in Higher Education.
Surveys are not required by Title IX and VAWA, and schools do not have to purchase surveys or educational programs from third parties, Cantalupo said. There are several models schools can adapt, including White House guidelines.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/19/living/clemson-titleix-training/

If I were a potential student I would write this school off my list. There are plenty of other school, many of them at least slightly less willing to sell the students down the river to appease the bosses as they kiss up to the lunatics who claim to be sure that men are evil that need to be restrained and women are angels who never lie or abuse.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 22 Sep, 2014 04:23 am
@hawkeye10,
We are entering into a dark period of our culture as for example the cries that we need to punish any male public figure who is charge with a crime of violence again a woman at once with no or damn little due process first.

That universities and sport teams should or even must set up parallel "courts" to punish men who had been charge with this crime instead of allowing the normal legal system to do it work before leveling any extra legal punishments.

All this anti-male base is happening at the same time that for example reported sexual assaults on women are at a thirty-five or so years low.

Robert Heinlein had a concept of the crazy years occurring in the US future and it seems to be happening for real when you look at all this anti-male nonsense.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2014 04:25 am
Strange that the CA legislation is not changing the sexual assault laws for everyone just the young men in colleges.

Nice idea as now rape occur whenever a young woman state it had occur and the only defense seems to be to have the young lady sign a consist paper on a cell phone video and even that does not protected against claims of withdrawn consent during the act itself.

Crazy years indeed...........


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http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/California-adopts-yes-means-yes-sex-assault-rule-5787273.php

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — Gov. Jerry Brown announced Sunday that he has signed a bill that makes California the first in the nation to define when "yes means yes" and adopt requirements for colleges to follow when investigating sexual assault reports.

State lawmakers last month approved SB967 by Sen. Kevin de Leon, D-Los Angeles, as states and universities across the U.S. are under pressure to change how they handle rape allegations. Campus sexual assault victims and women's advocacy groups delivered petitions to Brown's office on Sept. 16 urging him to sign the bill.

De Leon has said the legislation will begin a paradigm shift in how college campuses in California prevent and investigate sexual assaults. Rather than using the refrain "no means no," the definition of consent under the bill requires "an affirmative, conscious and voluntary agreement to engage in sexual activity."

"Every student deserves a learning environment that is safe and healthy," De Leon said in a statement Sunday night. "The State of California will not allow schools to sweep rape cases under the rug. We've shifted the conversation regarding sexual assault to one of prevention, justice, and healing."

The legislation says silence or lack of resistance does not constitute consent. Under the bill, someone who is drunk, drugged, unconscious or asleep cannot grant consent.

Lawmakers say consent can be nonverbal, and universities with similar policies have outlined examples as a nod of the head or moving in closer to the person.

(good luck to male CA college students])

Advocates for victims of sexual assault supported the change as one that will provide consistency across campuses and challenge the notion that victims must have resisted assault to have valid complaints.

"This is amazing," said Savannah Badalich, a student at UCLA, where classes begin this week, and the founder of the group 7000 in Solidarity. "It's going to educate an entire new generation of students on what consent is and what consent is not... that the absence of a no is not a yes."

The bill requires training for faculty reviewing complaints so that victims are not asked inappropriate questions when filing complaints. The bill also requires access to counseling, health care services and other resources.

When lawmakers were considering the bill, critics said it was overreaching and sends universities into murky legal waters. Some Republicans in the Assembly questioned whether statewide legislation is an appropriate venue to define sexual consent between two people.

There was no opposition from Republicans in the state Senate.

Gordon Finley, an adviser to the National Coalition for Men, wrote an editorial asking Brown not to sign the bill. He argued that "this campus rape crusade bill" presumes the guilt of the accused.

SB967 applies to all California post-secondary schools, public and private, that receive state money for student financial aid. The California State University and University of California systems are backing the legislation after adopting similar consent standards this year.

UC President Janet Napolitano recently announced that the system will voluntarily establish an independent advocate to support sexual assault victims on every campus. An advocacy office also is a provision of the federal Survivor Outreach and Support Campus Act proposed by U.S. Sen. Barbara Boxer and Rep. Susan Davis of San Diego, both Democrats.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2014 05:53 am
@BillRM,
Years ago we were talking about how the feminists planned to go to affirmative consent. Next up with be the demand for enthusiastic affirmative consent. That should cut down on the sex rate nicely, which was always the goal. It is getting harder and harder to keep sex out of rape territory.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 29 Sep, 2014 10:29 am
@hawkeye10,
Here we have our favorite misandrist complaining about a consent app

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In fact, Good2Go could contribute a dangerous new element to those he-said she-said rape cases. What Good2Go doesn’t tell users is that it keeps a private record of every “I’m Good2Go” agreement logged in its system, tied to both users’ personal phone numbers and Good2Go accounts. (Records of interactions where users say “No” or just want to talk are not logged in this way.) Allman says that regular users aren’t permitted access to those records, but a government official with a subpoena could. “It wouldn’t be released except under legal circumstances,” Allman told me. “But it does create a data point that there was an occasion where one party asked the other for affirmative consent, that could be useful in the future … there are cases, of course, as we know, where the accused is an innocent party, so in that case, it could be beneficial to him.”

That record may help the falsely accused, but it's unlikely to aid a real victim. Good2Go may remind its users that consent can be revoked at any time, but there are still judges and juries that will take evidence that a person said “yes” to sex at one point, and conclude that they were asking for whatever happened later that night (or the next). Compared to that scenario, talking about sex doesn’t seem so scary.


http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/09/29/good2go_a_new_app_for_consenting_to_sex.html
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nononono
 
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Reply Mon 27 Oct, 2014 04:44 am
Gloria Steinem is a bigot

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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 09:40 pm
@hawkeye10,
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Nicely ignoring that men are very often the victims of sexual assault, and that women are often the abusers...


Oh, you're the one who has totally ignored the fact that men are also victims of sexual assault, either by other men or by women. And you opposed changes in the laws to make them more gender neutral--which helps to better protect male victims, and to ensure better crime reporting statistics of rapes and sexual assaults against men. You've been totally committed to seeing sexual assault/rape, and sexual assault policies, as some sort of gender war, which precludes you from recognizing, or caring about, men who are sexually assaulted, because that interferes with the agenda you try to promote.

And those alleged "anti-male zealots in the Obama administration"--are just as interested in reducing sexual assaults against men, on campuses and in the military, as they are concerned with reducing them against women--and they've made that very clear.

Men are sexually assaulted with considerably less frequency than women, but some women may sexually entice, and sexually abuse, male adolescent minors in fairly good numbers--a crime most adult men, like you, don't regard seriously enough. If a 15 year old high school kid has sex with his 30 year old English teacher, you'd likely see him as "getting lucky" rather than seeing her as a sexual predator.

A case like that is currently in the news...

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Molly Shattuck charged with rape and sexual contact with minor
November 5, 2014

Molly Shattuck, the former Ravens cheerleader who was married to onetime Constellation Energy CEO Mayo A. Shattuck III, was arrested Wednesday and charged with third-degree rape and unlawful sexual contact with a 15-year-old boy, Delaware State Police said..

The 47-year-old mother of three, who has been active in local charities such as the United Way of Central Maryland and the Baltimore School for the Arts, is accused of giving alcohol to the boy, who is her son's classmate, and performing oral sex on him at a Delaware beach house over the Labor Day weekend, according to an affidavit for a search warrant filed in Baltimore County District Court.

Shattuck was arraigned Wednesday morning in Sussex County Superior Court in Georgetown, Del. She pleaded not guilty and was released on $84,000 bond — on the condition that she have no contact with the alleged victim or other minors except her own children, according to the Delaware attorney general's office. She was also required to turn in her passport, officials said.

"She is maintaining her innocence," said Shattuck's defense lawyer, Eugene Maurer, of Wilmington, Del. "She is obviously quite distraught." Shattuck is due back in court Dec. 3 for a case review, Maurer said.

A Delaware grand jury handed up a nine-count indictment against Shattuck on Monday, and it was unsealed Wednesday. She was charged with two counts of third-degree rape, which carries a potential sentence of two to 25 years in prison on each count; four counts of unlawful sexual contact in the second degree, with a penalty of up to three years in prison, and three counts of providing alcohol to a minor, which carries a fine of $100 to $500 and could lead to an order of community service or imprisonment of up to 60 days.

According to the affidavit, the boy — a student at the McDonogh School — told police that Shattuck began a flirtation with him on the social networking site Instagram in May.

The Baltimore Sun does not name alleged victims of sexual crimes.

The McDonogh School issued a statement Wednesday saying that administrators contacted police in late September as soon as they learned of allegations involving a student and a parent of another student.

"The safety and well-being of our students is our greatest priority at all times," Headmaster Charles W. Britton wrote to parents of McDonogh students in an email Wednesday. The letter said the parent — who was not named — had been banned from campus.

Shattuck, a self-styled fitness and lifestyle guru who was the oldest cheerleader in the history of the NFL, began sending provocative messages to the boy in the spring saying, "we would have fun together," according to the affidavit.

The two had sexual contact in the parking lot of a Columbia movie theater, the affidavit said, and also drove to a middle school parking lot where they kissed in the back seat of Shattuck's Cadillac Escalade.

In the summer, she would pick up the boy during his lunch breaks from a class and drive him to the parking garage of the T. Rowe Price building in Owings Mills where they would "get in the back of the car and kiss or 'make out,'" according to the affidavit.

Over Labor Day weekend, the boy joined Shattuck and her three children — who range in age from 11 to 15 — and their friends at a Bethany Beach rental home, according to the affidavit. The boy, who had traveled to the beach separately, asked his father for permission to spend the night with Shattuck's family. Shattuck, documents say, assured the boy's father that "there was no alcohol or drugs at the residence and she was the only adult."

However, she shared wine with the alleged victim while he played "music and games" with the other boys, according to the affidavit. Around 2 a.m., Shattuck left the younger children asleep in the rental home and took the alleged victim and other teenagers to a liquor store and purchased Miller Lite and Bud Light beer for them, the document states.

Back at the house, Shattuck asked the alleged victim to help her walk the dog. Once they got outside, she began kissing and fondling him, then performed oral sex on him, according to the affidavit. The boy then went up to a rooftop deck, where he and the other teens drank alcohol.

Shattuck then "came up and said that [the alleged victim] needs to go to bed," according to the affidavit.

The boy then went into Shattuck's bedroom, where she stripped to her underwear, performed oral sex on him again and told him she would be willing to have intercourse, the affidavit states. He decided to leave the bedroom. The boy's father picked him up in the morning, and the boy has not had contact with Shattuck since the incident, according to the affidavit.

According to the letter from the headmaster of the McDonogh School, he learned of allegations against a parent on Sept. 24. Britton said in the letter that he immediately reported the allegations to Baltimore County police.

"I want you to know that the parent has been prohibited from entering McDonogh's campus," he wrote, "and additional security measures have been in place to assure the safety of our students since the incident was reported."

Delaware authorities said in a statement that Baltimore County police contacted them Sept. 26 to report that the 15-year-old had said he had an inappropriate relationship with a woman later identified as Shattuck.

Delaware State Police searched Shattuck's North Baltimore home Oct. 1, seizing items they identified as "pertinent to the investigation." The affidavit gave police permission to seize Shattuck's cellphone, computers and other electronic devices as well as the "pink lace bra and underwear" that the alleged victim said Shattuck wore at the beach house.

Howard County police said Wednesday that the alleged incident at the Columbia movie theater was not reported to authorities at the time.

Police are investigating the allegations, said Howard police spokeswoman Sherry Llewellyn.

Baltimore County State's Attorney Scott D. Shellenberger said his office had "reviewed the facts and the circumstances of the allegations" but was deferring prosecution due to the "seriousness of the allegations in Delaware."

"Should additional facts come to light or circumstances change in the case in Delaware, this decision will be revisited," Shellenberger said.

A spokeswoman with the U.S. attorney's office in Baltimore said Shattuck had not been charged by that agency. The agency will neither confirm nor deny the existence of an investigation, she said.

No one answered Shattuck's front door — still decorated with black and orange streamers for Halloween — at her home Wednesday morning. Neighbors either declined to comment or said they did not know the Shattucks well.

Mayo Shattuck, who before joining Constellation was chairman of the board of Deutsche Banc Alex. Brown, referred calls to a family spokesman, George P. Stamas, also formerly with the investment firm.

"Mr. Shattuck is shocked and saddened about the allegations against his ex-wife, from whom he is divorced," said Stamas, now a senior partner at the Kirkland & Ellis law firm in Washington. "He is focused on the care and welfare of his children, who are with him, and is deeply concerned about others affected by this. He requests that the privacy of his children be respected."

Mayo Shattuck is now chairman of Exelon Corp., the Chicago-based energy giant that acquired Constellation in 2012.

Michelle N. Lipkowitz, a Baltimore-based attorney representing Molly Shattuck, said her client has resigned from all of her nonprofit boards, including the Baltimore School for the Arts, United Way and the National Children's Museum.

"It is a difficult time for all involved," Lipkowitz said, declining further comment.

The United Way of Central Maryland said Molly Shattuck, who sat on their board and was "a longtime volunteer," is barred from any future participation with the organization, according to spokeswoman Danielle Hogan.

The allegations about Molly Shattuck had circulated through Baltimore for weeks before the indictment was handed up. As rumors spread, a website promoting her book, "Molly Shattuck Vibrant Living," went into maintenance mode and her various social media accounts were shut down.

The allegations about Molly Shattuck had circulated through Baltimore for weeks before the indictment was handed up. As rumors spread, a website promoting her book, "Molly Shattuck Vibrant Living," went into maintenance mode and her various social media accounts were shut down.

"It's the talk of the town. It's probably the most sensational thing that's ever hit Baltimore," said Lainy LeBow-Sachs, executive vice president at the Kennedy Kreiger Institute and a prominent player in the local philanthropic community." I think it's a very sad time. It's sad for the children and the family, and it's sad for her. The whole thing is just pathetic."

Adam Rosenberg, executive director of the nonprofit Baltimore Child Abuse Center, said people mistakenly tend to trivialize the impact of sexual abuse on a teenage male. Speaking not about the alleged victim in the Shattuck case but about teenage boys in general, he said, "Even though he may look and act like an adult, his brain is not there yet. A 15-year-old doesn't know he is being manipulated, he is being taken advantage of and ultimately exploited."

Rosenberg suggested that parents closely monitor their children's use of social media.

"It takes a community to protect children," he said. "If other adults and children are seeing behavior between adults and children that doesn't seem right, they need to report it."...
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-ae-molly-shattuck-20141105-story.html#page=1


Given what you usually say when teenage females report sexual abuse, do you think this is a case of false allegation made by the 15 year old? That his dad smelled alcohol on his breath so he concocted this story about Shattock to keep himself out of trouble?

Please don't go on about how a 15 year old should have the right to consent to sex with a 47 year old, because that's not current law, it's unlikely to become law in the foreseeable future, and everyone has heard that spiel of yours before.

Under current law, if the allegations are true, what would you like to see happen to Molly Shattuck?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 10:13 pm
@firefly,
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do you think this is a case of false allegation made by the 15 year old


I dont think this 15 yo made an allegation, I think this 15 yo had a great time doing what he wanted to do and does not consider himself to be a victim so there is no abuser to accuse . He then made the mistake of blabbing about it. Eventually after a few weeks the principal found out about it and reported the allegation,that being the principal's allegation.

It was a blowjob, it is not a big deal to me. You will recall that I think that 15yo's should be given their sexual freedom. I am more concerned that this 47yo is providing alcohol to and I think drinking with a group of underaged boys. This woman has taken " think young, act young, be young" to an extreme that is almost pathological. She needs help, but not for giving a lucky young guy almost certainly the best blowjob he has ever had. Lets give this woman some counselling, and this young man a backslap.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 10:36 pm
@hawkeye10,
http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1349320860782_6983949.png

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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 10:42 pm
@hawkeye10,
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I dont think this 15 yo made an allegation...

Oh, but it does sound as though he did make an allegation to the Baltimore County Police, and he obviously provided them with all the details of what transpired and when.
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Delaware authorities said in a statement that Baltimore County police contacted them Sept. 26 to report that the 15-year-old had said he had an inappropriate relationship with a woman later identified as Shattuck.


Funny you can't see that this woman is a a sexual predator, given how she enticed this child, including with the use of alcohol, if this is how you think about it.
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is woman has taken " think young, act young, be young" to an extreme that is almost pathological. She needs help, but not for giving a lucky young guy almost certainly the best blowjob he has ever had.

If the allegations are true, this woman is a sexual predator who exploited and manipulated a 15 year old child for her own sexual gratification--that's sexual abuse. She should be regarded, and prosecuted, in exactly the same way as a 47 year old man who acts in a similar manner with a 14 year old female child.

But your response was exactly the sort of thing I predicted you'd say. You're really quite boring and predictable.

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 11:02 pm
@firefly,
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Funny you can't see that this woman is a a sexual predator, given how she enticed this child, including with the use of alcohol, if this is how you think about it.
She was a sexual provider, free from what I can tell, she is the opposite of a predator. She gave, she did not take. Do you know the difference?

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in exactly the same way as a 47 year old man who acts in a similar manner with a 14 year old female child.
Can we at least let him off the hook if he gave her an orgasim as he licked her even though she is a year too young in my books? Again, giving is the opposite of taking.
firefly
 
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Reply Wed 5 Nov, 2014 11:20 pm
@hawkeye10,
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She was a sexual provider, free from what I can tell, she is the opposite of a predator...

Go tell her lawyer you've got a great defense for her, as a "sexual provider", although her "providing" to minors she's enticed, is still illegal.

At least you're consistent, in your support of sexual predators. Laughing
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nononono
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2014 11:40 pm
Here are some rape prevention tips for you firefly.

Just utilising my freedom of speech! Laughing


Rape prevention for women

Is there a need for rape prevention instruction for women? Aside from all the sexual politics that infect this kind of question (and the answers to it), we contend that the question is actually moot. What is not in dispute is that every human being stands to gain a lot from being able to take care of themselves. Men get this, in most cases. As we consider the lives of women, however, the same can’t be said.

In fact, in this age of postmodern insanity the notion of personal accountability and agency for women has been reduced by feminists to a joke. Bad things are not supposed to happen to women, not because they push themselves to administer good judgement in their lives, and make sound decision. And it is not because they learn how to protect themselves, both mentally and physically. Bad things are not supposed to happen because we tell people not to do bad things to women, which of course leaves women wide open for a lot of bad things to happen to them.

So far have gender ideologues taken the infantilization of women, that the very suggestion of a woman learning how to take care of herself is seen as abusive.

Indeed, it is a sad and absolutely crazy world.

You can imagine that we were very pleased to hear from a self defense instructor who tried to inform women on how to help themselves avoid trouble, And after getting a jaw-dropping dose of insane victim politics for his efforts, decided to bring his wares to video and sought us out as a possible way to reach women with the information.

He wrote to us thus:

I’ve been making youtube videos for a little while now, focusing mostly on firearms and self defense. I recently decided to go ahead and make a short video series on rape avoidance.

I’m not an activist, but your website has changed my life and allowed me to finally understand many of the issues that have bothered me in the past about men’s place in our society.

The videos I made were not specifically about men’s human rights or even about feminism, but I do feel that there is a void in our current culture and media on rape avoidance. It seems to me that while the media is focusing on nonsense, there are actual important issues for young women to face in avoiding rape from the self-defensive standpoint. Unfortunately, that information requires placing responsibility entirely in the hands of the women interested in protecting themselves, which is quite an unpopular approach in today’s victimhood culture.

I felt that it was important to get that viewpoint out there, and was hoping that, if you have time, you could look the videos over and decide if they’re worth linking to on your website.


https://www.youtube.com/user/Orthrus/videos

Whatever your response, I appreciate you taking the time to read this, and would like to thank you and all of the men and women involved with AVFM. You have done me and other men a lot of good in our lives, and I can never thank you strongly enough.

After reviewing the material, we have decided that this man has something of genuine value and we are going to use the reach of this website to provide it.

You will note in the rape prevention introduction video (second one down), he offers some history on what inspired him to do this series, and on his perspective about rape as a crime. We find much of what he had to say showed a great cognizance of the subject matter, from personal, practical and political standpoints. That being said, this video series is offered for the purpose of rape avoidance information early, and is not offered as AVFM commentary on the crime of rape, or its solutions.


http://www.avoiceformen.com/rape-prevention-for-women/
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nononono
 
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Reply Thu 6 Nov, 2014 11:48 pm
A 35 year old teacher who had sex with one of her ninth grade male students only got 60 days in jail, and DOESN'T HAVE TO REGISTER AS A SEX OFFENDER!!!!

But, nope. There is no such thing as the sentencing gap that results in males being more likely to be convicted and receive harsher sentences for the exact same crimes that women commit! There is no such thing as bias against males in our culture! Nope, that's just "nutjob" MRA's in the men's movement crying MALE ******* TEARS!




A former North Dakota gym teacher was sentenced to 60 days in jail Wednesday for having sex with a ninth-grade male student, but will not have to register as a sex offender because of the crime.

In May, 35-year-old Bismarck resident Susan Kathleen Duursma pleaded guilty to felony child abuse against a student she taught, according to the Bismark Tribune. She had resigned from her school position months before.

In addition to her jail sentence, South Central District Court Judge Bruce Romanick also gave Duursma a six-year suspended prison sentence, along with a probation time of five years.

At a hearing for the case Wednesday, the father of the abused student spoke, saying that his son “has always been a laid-back boy,” but his innocence was taken from him.

The father said that the case had resulted in his son becoming withdrawn and he wanted the case to be over so the media would leave his son and family alone.

“The only positive that’s come out of this is the rally and support,” he said.

The father also spoke directly to Duursma, saying “He’s a good boy, and that’s why you preyed on him.”

In line with the father’s wishes and with experts’ judgment of the legal definition for mandatory sex offender registration, Romanick chose not to make Duursma register as a sex offender.

Romanick’s decision hinged on the distinction between child abuse and a sex crime, though sex was involved in this particular incident.

“It’s probably, Ms. Duursma, one of the harder cases I have to sit on,” the judge said.

Romanick also advised Duursma to seek counseling so she does not face trial again.

“If you come back to see me, things will go a lot worse,” he said.

During the hearing, Duursma was also given a chance to speak. With her time, she apologized to the student’s father and said the crime was all her fault.

“I’m sorry for all the pain and harm I’ve caused you and your family,” said Duursma, who also is a parent and has a family.

Duursma is set to serve her sentence at the Burleigh County Detention Center.

Source: Bismark Tribune


http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/bismarck-teacher-who-had-sex-teenage-student-sentenced-60-days-jail
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2014 12:04 am
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:

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do you think this is a case of false allegation made by the 15 year old


I dont think this 15 yo made an allegation, I think this 15 yo had a great time doing what he wanted to do and does not consider himself to be a victim so there is no abuser to accuse . He then made the mistake of blabbing about it. Eventually after a few weeks the principal found out about it and reported the allegation,that being the principal's allegation.

It was a blowjob, it is not a big deal to me. You will recall that I think that 15yo's should be given their sexual freedom. I am more concerned that this 47yo is providing alcohol to and I think drinking with a group of underaged boys. This woman has taken " think young, act young, be young" to an extreme that is almost pathological. She needs help, but not for giving a lucky young guy almost certainly the best blowjob he has ever had. Lets give this woman some counselling, and this young man a backslap.


According to a story up on WP my Hawk Eye functioned perfectly here. Again.
nononono
 
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Reply Fri 7 Nov, 2014 05:54 am
@hawkeye10,
A feminist professor SERIOUSLY thinks women shouldn't be put in jail at all! No matter what they do! Drunk But NOPE, academia isn't biased against men WHATSO ******* EVER!!!


It sounds like a radical idea: Stop incarcerating women, and close down women’s prisons. But in Britain, there is a growing movement, sponsored by a peer in the House of Lords, to do just that.

The argument is actually quite straightforward: There are far fewer women in prison than men to start with — women make up just 7 percent of the prison population. This means that these women are disproportionately affected by a system designed for men.

But could women’s prisons actually be eliminated in the United States, where the rate of women’s incarceration has risen by 646 percent in the past 30 years? The context is different, but many of the arguments are the same.

Essentially, the case for closing women’s prisons is the same as the case for imprisoning fewer men. It is the case against the prison industrial complex and for community-based treatment where it works better than incarceration. But there is evidence that prison harms women more than men, so why not start there?

Any examination of the women who are in U.S. prisons reveals that the majority are nonviolent offenders with poor education, little employment experience and multiple histories of abuse from childhood through adulthood. Women are also more likely than men to have children who rely on them for support — 147,000 American children have mothers in prison.

Prison nation

The United States is a prison nation. More than 1.5 million people are incarcerated in the country. And this obsession with punishment is expensive. Cumulatively, states spend more than $52 billion a year on their prison systems. The federal government also spends tens of billions to police, prosecute and imprison people, though research demonstrates that incarceration harms individual well-being and does not improve public safety.


What purpose is served by subjecting the most disempowered, abused and nonviolent women to the perpetually negative environment of prisons?

Efforts to make prison “work” for women have only perpetuated the growth of the prison industrial complex. These putative reforms have helped some individuals, and possibly brought the nature of mass warehousing of poor, black and brown bodies more into focus, but the number of incarcerated people still continues to rise.

Community interventions work

So what is the alternative to jailing women at the rate we do? In Britain, advocates propose community sentences for nonviolent offenders and housing violent offenders in small custodial centers near their families.

There is evidence that these approaches can work in the United States. Opportunities to test alternatives to prison are increasing across the states, and some have demonstrated beneficial results for the women who participated.

For example, state-funded Project Redeploy in Illinois has built upon the evidence that nonviolent offenders are more effectively treated in their communities by diverting 1,376 nonviolent offenders from prison since January 2011, when the program began, through the end of 2013.

Oklahoma is currently ranked No. 1 for female incarceration per capita in the country. Nearly 80 percent of Oklahoma’s incarcerated women are nonviolent offenders, their presence in prison largely attributed to drug abuse, distribution of controlled substances, prostitution and property crimes.


A program that began five years ago, Women in Recovery, provides an alternative to prison for women who are sentenced for felony crimes linked to alcohol or drug addiction. The program includes comprehensive treatment and services such as employment services, housing assistance and family reunification. Women with small children are given the highest priority for admission to the program. Women who complete the program, averaging about 18 months, have a high degree of success after release.

The program coordinator has told me that 68 percent of the women who completed the program had no further involvement with the criminal justice system.

Starting with women

Even as we learn about promising diversion programs for women, are we really ready to shut down women’s prisons? If we think of abolition as a citizens’ effort and believe that women should be allowed to jump the queue for transport along the path of recovery and healing, there are steps that must be taken from a feminist perspective.

We need to understand the harm embedded in the current prison system and explore what alternative responses already exist. For example, Susan Burton, the founder of A New Way of Life, a group of transition homes for women exiting prison in Los Angeles, indicates that an abolitionist perspective transforms the lives of former prisoners. Direct assistance from this program reconnects women to their families, communities and citizenship. Circle processes used by indigenous communities in the United States, Canada and New Zealand provide models for these practices.


The systemic production of mass incarceration cannot be solved simply by assisting troubled and troubling individual women. Another step to abolition requires taking the discussion beyond the individuals and communities most directly harmed, controlled and erased by the prison industrial complex to the public sphere that has passively accepted it. Put simply, we need to stop seeing prisons as an inevitable part of life.

Another way

If we can’t close down women’s prisons, we can at least slow down their expansion. Efforts to isolate women from their communities must be identified and opposed.

In Denver, for example, the Fail the Jail campaign helped defeat the addition of new jail beds. Instead, the director of the state’s community reentry project told me that alternatives have proven to help individual women and change community attitudes.

The case for closing women’s prisons is built on the experiences of formerly incarcerated women and activists who recognize that women who are mothers and community builders can find their way forward when they respected and supported. It is possible to imagine a future without women’s prisons; whether it’s achievable will require a bigger shift in thinking.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/11/06/we-should-stop-putting-women-in-jail-for-anything/
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