Quote: Well, right back at you. The individual is just as prone to becoming corrupt (history is also riddled with this). Governments that put to much emphasis on the individual vs society creates hyper-individualistic people. This is just as bad as a class of dependent people.
There is also a difference between a democracy that is polarized and one that has a multitude of perspectives. A majority should be than have more people in agreement or disagreement.
I see your point that corrupt individuals are bad, too. Sadly those people have no power or affect little to some people, but governmental power is massively powerful as the people under it agree to submit to it. Those who are corrupt in monopolies are just as bad. Government is plainly to powerful, even limited strictly.
Quote: I worked well for many since a child, and neve made my self rich doing so, but I have made others richer by degrees...And very often it was to see them piss away the very money I had put in their hands- on frivolity...There was no partnership, and If I had no honor I could have beat most of them at their own game...Instead, my honor, to live up to my agreements and the contracts I had accepted made me poor, and mademe labor for their wealth, which properly speaking, was our wealth...
True democracy does not make anyone dependent, but makes all free; but democracy is not possible for the immoral, or the lazy, or for those without self control, or a love of justice... Such people can talk till blue about democracy; but never get the sense of it...
Remember it is not a partnership if you are an employee. Even as this seems as dehumanizing thing, employees are simply a resource for the employer to gain wealth in exchange for a wage for that employee. That is reality of capitalism. If you dislike that you do not gain from your labor, then why hold yourself back, follow that ambition. Capitalism is built upon individuals gaining wealth, using that wealth to gain more by increasing their business which necessarily needs labor, and the cycle will go on. Making the economy larger.
I never called or meant to call democracy the creator of dependency. Democracy is the people, guided by a majority (consensus and supermajority is difficult to get, and minority is just stupid to let guide), instead of a government of representatives or governing class. Democracy holds no limits upon the majority, and that leads to oppression by the majority. Democracy is just a government of the majority.
On the matter of capitalism, it is too difficult to explain as it has too many aspects, if you want to figure out what it is, read Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations.
Quote: Since it is one world with a common environment and a common market, why should there not be some common government...Is war preferable??? Is the madness of everyone dumping on the environment, and seeding injustice universally preferable to world government...I do not think the U.N. qualifies as world government... Our own rights are forever being torn down in international agreements for the very reason that they are written by a class that hates the people...That is not government either, and it is impossible to accept that such people who reject government in this land will ever provide government for the world...
I agree that the U.N. is not world government as it has no sovereignty over any jurisdiction, but it is a stepping stone towards a global governance. And, a common market and environment can not bind people together; they bound by nationalty, race, ancestry, and heredity.
Honestly, are you going put in environmental "injustice" in here? Before our time, some waterways were so polluted that the water caught fire or that no one could drink it. How can we compare to that? Could you give me examples of the destruction you talk about?
On the subject of war, war is a necessary evil. War is the sometimes the only answer that can end a problem between two nations as diplomatic compromises would not always create peace. War is the only way to assert dominance and power over another nation. Even though this is grim it is true. Diplomacy can go so far. The best is total isolation or being stronger than your enemies.
You and i can agree that the government should be by the consent of the governed. Sadly, that is the last agreement we can make on government.
On the matter of a dependent class, this is a class that can suck dry the weatlth of any society. When charity is institutionalized as welfare, a dependant class is created out of the desire to gain without working. When the working class, who provides for this welfare and creates welfare, decides that it has gained nothing or little, they will join the welfare for the easy money. Then there is no wealth to suck off of. This is how people function, to create for their own benefit. Would any of you do everything for the benefit of society, not including yourself?
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Government is a popular, public institution, which is established for the common benefit of the governed and under their consent and power of the governed. This is just an extension of this society, and has no right or just power to orgainze and order the society. It is only the members of the soceity that have that right to order and organize the society, either that be through government or custom.